From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Gary Mirkin 8 Aug 94 08:47:42 Subject: PGP Legal_Kludge! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Gary Mirkin wrote in a message to Jason Carr: JC>Gary Mirkin wrote in a message to All: GM> I didn't write that! Maybe my editor was confused or something. Sorry 'bout that. jason ...I'm not on drugs. I am drugs. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkZT9UjhGzlN9lCZAQHuYAQAib0hDmIL1TrKoUO6PtoG1A/29Crl/OOL VNj8bYX16mWHg9xlkN6s8MGc5m08CHhZ0PnbmbKkyHWqchfesGIKuK66t6zmFFU4 qbTUxaLpW1tjL/EBWCjcNyHmSqsq4+igjn2AjMvGrUeS5yFHm/qzrUWRqdVVaC4x mHL5whLxYGI= =Nvfd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ...Key fingerprint = 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Shawn K. Quinn Area: Public Key Encryption To: Mike Lippai 3 Aug 94 01:08:02 Subject: Public Keys *** Quote: Mike Lippai to All on 30 Jul 94 20:10:06 *** Subject: Public Keys ML> I have a burning question. How does one put out his public key? I ML> mean what do you have to to to make the file or whatevr it is you send ML> out?? I have read the docs a Gazillion times with no clue yet. Lets ML> say I want to send encrypted messages to a freind, how do I get his ML> public key, and how does he get mine?? I know how to add a key to my ML> ring-[pgp -ka ????????.??? Pubring.pgp] ML> I'm not sure this is the right conference for this, but...... Actually, the -ka you mention is really unnecessary. I export all the traffic in PKEY_DROP to a file named KEYS.ASC using Blue Wave, run 'PGP KEYS' and BAM! In response to your question, you run 'PGP -KX "Mike Lippai"'. Follow the prompts from there. SKQ 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Brian McMurry Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 6 Aug 94 16:59:14 Subject: New here -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I've just recently added this echo to my system and was wondering who the moderator is and what the rules are. Also, what's the difference between this echo and PKEY_DROP? Before I was interested in PGP I seem to remember the elist saying that PKEY_DROP was for announcing keys that are no long valid, but the elist desciption seems to have changed. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkNdyd2dg1OWsljdAQF7kwQAiTsHmV1KeAgaPqYhfotsSWgnEObyM0rS huFy5EHUBcGTYTU+sn8VDYhwcUAhshh7Dmor2quHS+AHnEEXZg2zssUF/BAydUzD JyPFmm0b781qY330sjWJhMf+6fy9cmN9b9uXXwNJFfObuRqpvvo7ajmkmj4d9AbT xfYy3lMPwLo= =ydtJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Wes Landaker Area: Public Key Encryption To: John Schofield 7 Aug 94 16:17:12 Subject: Remailer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello John! 06 Aug 94 16:50, John Schofield wrote to All: JS> I am currently looking for Fidonet SysOps willing to beta-test JS> REMAIL. REMAIL is currently vaporware. I estimate that at my JS> current rate, a beta-test version will be available in a month. JS> (So if someone ships me a crate of Capios, expect it in a week. JS> {grin}) This sounds like a wonderful idea! I'd be willing to help in any way that I can with it, all you need to do is ask. :) I'm getting to be quite a seasoned beta-tester now-a-daze ;) so if you're ever in need, "REMAIL" me a netmail. (Oh boy, I kill me :) Wes Team OS/2 Fidonet 1:202/1822, Internet wjl@f1822.n202.z1.fidonet.org, CHNet 371:30/1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6wjl iQCVAgUBLkV6XMlPrmStIlSlAQHoaQP/WItOqliWvlmv9aaz8zWqFlxymlcOY7gV dFUqY7RlIjlN3XodhmYHi9OT2EfXD2SuVYFpPru7dfh1CmJi7IxW39oi8hwxhDNe i/0SQSuz8FkGgaQjp7ZkHx640x5eU332XV4kIE8UBuql1wUO9TFPreJVc1/IRnIV VGrnEyLBKtw= =7XTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Wes Landaker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Tony Iannotti 7 Aug 94 21:23:52 Subject: PGP 2.6ui -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Tony! 05 Aug 94 17:16, Tony Iannotti wrote to All: TI> I am experiencing a very odd side effect of upgrading to 2.6ui. TI> It wants to write to the pgp directory. I usually keep that on a TI> write-protected floppy. 2.3 never minded the write protection, TI> except when doing key management. TI> Has anyone else noticed this, and if so, found a way around it? I TI> prefer to keep the floppy write protected. Thanks! Very simple--it's trying to create temporary files in your PGP directory. You need to tell it to put them somewhere else. You can do this with the config.txt file, "TMP" I think it is. =) 2.3a default was the directory of the file you were PGPing. =) Wes Team OS/2 Fidonet 1:202/1822, Internet wjl@f1822.n202.z1.fidonet.org, CHNet 371:30/1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6wjl iQCVAgUBLkXB7slPrmStIlSlAQEm3AQAjCp/a3tq4eBXIkvdoPuFRrJPS6cmRXV6 Hva0wMQwYprWxVMk2brsfe2Xv1PMElmG1BwBFwYaokJ6eW3fpUh2X14eRsPbzAK8 5XfmPALGKEpla7YztDunpiZ/CqZEZsBwhGs7PjDrL183anVZhZLRxaVbOkmf/V9M MylBT8gwRZU= =ovFu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Brad Ems Area: Public Key Encryption To: All PGP users 8 Aug 94 21:11:28 Subject: Don't forget!!!!!!!! Don't forget that this Friday, August 12th, there will be a free lecture regarding the Clipper Chip, PGP, and computing privacy. Details: When : August 12th, 7:30 p.m. Where : St. Louis County Library Headquarters 1649 S. Lindbergh (across from Frontenac Plaza) Who : Jim Burnes, a local computer consultant will lecture on the Clipper Chip: what it is, how it works, what its pitfalls are, and why it is not needed. Why : Because , and it ain't nobody's business 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Mike Lenker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jim Cannell 8 Aug 94 19:21:06 Subject: Censorship -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Here is a reply I received when I posted an inquiry in the local echo intended for all Fido net 106 sysops: _______________________________________________________________________ Hello Mike! Replying to a message of Mike Lenker to All: ML> Here is a message to me from the head of the SecureMail system. ML> Can anyone confirm, deny, prove, disprove or clarify it? (Please ML> reply by netmail.) You posted publicly, I'll respond publicly. ML> There is a rumor floating on PUBLIC_KEYS that all backbone Echos ML> going into Net 106 are screened for the string "PGP", and if ML> found, the message is routed to the bitbucket. As a distributor, I do not delete messages that contain the string "PGP". If that were the case, I would not have seen this message. However, I do refuse to route or distribute any PGP encrypted message including PGP clear signed messages. In the case of a netmail message, the message is returned to the origin system. Echomail messages are returned to the uplink. ML> In the more likely case that this is simply another urban legend, ML> please post some first hand info in PUBLIC_KEYS to squelch the ML> rumor. I don't carry the that echo. However, if the moderator has no objections, please feel free to cross post my message. Regards, Jim! Internet: jdailey@houston.legent.com @ Origin: DOOGER'S Place OS/2 from Houston Texafornia (1:106/202) @PATH: 106/202 449 15 821 _____________________________________________________________________________ Several other replies were received along the same lines, but more argumentative. The substance of this message is consistent with my experience. mike.lenker@f1776.n106.z1.fidonet.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.55 iQBVAgUBLka+xs4Ymr59enmxAQHgeAH+Ik52ZQsFAnR/+UNi1C8dFfi9mYUjSLAi AwLZ7ytW+dstt7N4rmDzDrkOrPANDMNLbqGtWtKiq7yAi74BCTEtLQ== =riWq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Cannell Area: Public Key Encryption To: Mike Lenker 9 Aug 94 02:52:26 Subject: Net 106 censorship? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a msg on , Mike Lenker of 1:216/21 writes: ML> It is true that distributors are refusing individual ML> netmail with ML> PGP signatures -- at least they were about six months ago, ML> and I ML> have no reason to think this has changed. This in itself provides an excellent reason to advertise the advantages of SecureMail to Net 106. Advertise it in the Net 106 Sysop Echo. Make sure you include the note that SECUREML.ZIP can be freqed from your system. Even direct NetMail pitches to some of the Net 106 sysops would help. Don't let the control phreaks run FidoNet. Jim - International SecureMail Hub (ISMH) PGP key 1024/B7822B3D fingerprint = 0F F4 79 06 3B 33 99 D1 07 36 66 66 80 85 76 B3 Protect your right to privacy. Say no to key escrow. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkbziyWTIMO3gis9AQG+jgP/dPAry8cjnbHxAAjWc8md3ZPDN2osPpXl deF6gplM/78siYMU94eaHijhj4YAGT/afkcHjKAKh4e9sjwUP3KX96srwMN//vJw gGW6Ka/UTL3sv7+ZQim9eJY9gDIPMypugy6138j8rYIhm2cN5LFpNww27Ez3bEIj cLOj++KOOtg= =Svra -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Reed Darsey Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 8 Aug 94 21:57:24 Subject: PGP 2.6ui bugs? Are there any "new" bugs in 2.6ui that were not in 2.3a? The exectable I have is: pgp.exe 227288 05-27-94 14:16:26 Are there any further releases? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Reed Darsey Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 9 Aug 94 06:02:48 Subject: INFOWORLD slurb - PGP book (Old news, but I haven't seen it mentioned here.) Another item from the trade press was the INFOWORLD article in the August 1, 1994 issue titled "ViaCrypt to market PGP encryption for Windows." The interesting part was where they said that "Zimmerman is preparing a book, tentatively titled _PGP Source Code and Internals_, to be published by MIT Press within the next four months." 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 9 Aug 94 10:17:56 Subject: New to PGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Shawn McMahon wrote in a message to jason carr: jc> I must disagree. Mailfraud can get one kicked out of Fido. SM> It isn't mail, it's the 'snooze. If you don't make a dumb SM> mistake, it can't be proven that you sent the thing. I believe the original suggestion was this: ==== - From : Shawn McMahon To : Jerome Greene Subj : New to PGP ... If you see someone say that in an echo, send a message impersonating him. At ... ==== Looks like mail to me. SM> This gives the impression that signing is something special, SM> for which one needs permission, and that it's reasonable to SM> expect that it will not be allowed. I'm just saying (perhaps with moderator's bias) that it's polite to ask first. The PGP crowd is not universally loved, so we need all the good PR we can get. Unruly acts/posts by PGP advocates =hurts= the cause, not helps it. SM> Sign first, stop only if asked. Kind of obnoxious behavior, IMO. jason ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (D)etonate -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkfE+kjhGzlN9lCZAQEahAQAj2ScTigOgjR3+uW8jafillLahHg/cbtO 2JZt3xO0CIjeBKPVGMLHnLjwX/u5D2Lpkxw0x1FzzqQYgg4JwsVa/QGeLYszzOQl 0H/3liTsYILJ3um1a0ORy6NX/9tynQuVeayDSMR6wpYzA08gxnxvX7iw0VIwXel1 pnRx5aevGsc= =j/AB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ...Key fingerprint = 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 9 Aug 94 10:55:42 Subject: Question or two -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Shawn McMahon wrote in a message to Phillip Runyan: SM> In netmail. It's never appropriate to send encrypted SM> messages in an echo, "in a backboned FidoNet echo..." There are other echos out there which welcome encrypted Traffic. At least two OtherNets do (PlanoNet and ???), and my Dallas-Fort Worth PGP_ECHO. jason ... Remember! If you still got shoes, It ain't really the Blues. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkfDrEjhGzlN9lCZAQGWawP/RXxPB1kNdIN26C6Aa1OLYNmMrLtltqIT rvZ3g3c13YsLKgLnsPXC7cCthr2h1Q0gjE8B7X6eSIIj1lGXdihx6ji/wlC1oMes YlKLas5rxsGku563POZSiEOBE5UwJ3iSdMyoiHQXDPotRdrMieu80LoGFcFQmH2X CPliS1XBow8= =vyMz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ...Key fingerprint = 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Mike Destro Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 31 Jul 94 10:54:10 Subject: PGP23a Hello All! Could some one tell me where I could get the following files? PGP23a PGP26 (?, the MIT version) PGPSHEL2 Your help is greatly appreciated. Mike 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Todd Rourke Area: Public Key Encryption To: Christopher Baker 9 Aug 94 02:14:56 Subject: routing *** Quoting Christopher Baker to Todd Rourke *** CB> are you actively recruiting in your Region? I have tried... I have tried... unfortunately politics in R16 tend to be rather skewed against SecureMail. -TR N323EC 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Cannell Area: Public Key Encryption To: Mike Lenker 10 Aug 94 03:11:48 Subject: Censorship -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a msg on , Mike Lenker of 1:106/202 writes: ML> However, I do refuse to route or distribute any PGP encrypted ML> message including PGP clear signed messages. In the case of ML> a netmail message, the message is returned to the origin ML> system. Echomail messages are returned to the uplink. I think this provides you with an excellent opportunity to advertise SecureMail in the Net 106 sysop Echo pointing out that the SecureMail system does *NOT* engage in such censorship. It probably would not be out of line to work towards an alternative EchoMail distribution system which is free of such silly restrictions as well. Jim - International SecureMail Hub (ISMH) PGP key 1024/B7822B3D fingerprint = 0F F4 79 06 3B 33 99 D1 07 36 66 66 80 85 76 B3 Protect your right to privacy. Say no to key escrow. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkhGlSWTIMO3gis9AQFbfgQAskaS/SdfjGCUSRI7kl+OoBc+5VqD2BKz pjtUvrkmRdISlxcplHlkGEsyfn7FrFWxwvI2zpOFkPEvAbjNtM0maGC+uL15kkx4 jeT9L110MT2ihLcx9QyjnTylY1fNTcd7ex6DECORoad4HZzShCeiibVz4BJIoLP1 pkNGcvs+r0M= =2bDi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Brian Mcmurry 10 Aug 94 00:31:00 Subject: Re: New here * Original Message Date: 10 Aug 94 00:29:15 * From: Christopher Baker * To: Brian Mcmurry * Edited by: Christopher Baker @ 1:374/14 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 06 Aug 94, Brian Mcmurry was quoted as saying: BM> I've just recently added this echo to my system and was wondering BM> who the moderator is and what the rules are. Also, what's the Moderators are me and GK Pace. Guidelines are posted on the 1st and 15th. you can freq them as PUBKEYS.RUL and PKDROP.RUL. BM> between this echo and PKEY_DROP? PKEY_DROP is for posting public-keys and key info or problems. BM> remember the elist saying that PKEY_DROP was for announcing keys BM> that are no long valid, but the elist desciption seems to have BM> changed. just one of its key-related functions. this Echo is about PGP and encryption and privacy and any other programs or info that apertain thereto. [grin] welcome to the Echo. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 Comment: PGP 2.6 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAgUBLkhX98sQPBL4miT5AQEydwP/QQ8fU9Pv3OXe5pOQNfjbFeSahfxaHmLK rG0g0EXzC/ixwYvvIT0KbjH3cdW51HNPoaaq77zOweAJKtJMJRAuuYy6J96iBbfj PFdyVNJZYaPvEBuTYLDVlNu0msCaQjEDE9OCCbuykbC43KmGUo/m+ramUkzwVaKA pY9kOrDcj8g= =reof -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Wes Landaker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Gary Mirkin 8 Aug 94 09:58:42 Subject: PGP Legal_Kludge! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Gary! 04 Aug 94 17:11, Gary Mirkin wrote to Jason Carr: GM> by earlier versions of PGP.) It incidentally shows the GM> problems inherent where, for reasons of establishing trust GM> I didn't write that! Guess you should be using digisigs, eh? ;) JC> Information, indeed, wants to be free. I hope they continue JC> to publish the sourcecode. GM> I agree. Even if they don't, it won't be long until someone else writes something that include source code. :) PGP is probably the best program for this kind of stuff out so far, but that doesn't mean it's the do-all, end-all, final program every to be written. =) Wes Team OS/2 Fidonet 1:202/1822, Internet wjl@f1822.n202.z1.fidonet.org, CHNet 371:30/1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6wjl iQCVAgUBLkZyv8lPrmStIlSlAQGq9wP/QOd9hxg/rAdtSw09ZYRZpUyJ8wzgXo31 4DxfKbzZI8zzAO9y31dyS30sgRRVNbFIqTAiWOhvUb6qxdI2p5WqfysDtFdAsecE EmIs19fipZ6axdchojIuJfM/HltGWEzd2W4bmSBimr6ADhgOqaHdRujNPu9LSraY 0qivY+EYn3s= =knSA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Wes Landaker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jason Levine 8 Aug 94 10:02:32 Subject: Quick inquiry... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Jason! 07 Aug 94 00:51, Jason Levine wrote to All: JL> Does anyone know what form of cryptology DISKREET (Norton JL> Utilities) uses? I just realized that I've been using it (on and JL> off) for a few years, without having any idea what kind of JL> encryption scheme it uses... It uses a (IMO) fairly weak DES method. I used to think it was really hot stuff until I started getting into cryptography. =) Wes Team OS/2 Fidonet 1:202/1822, Internet wjl@f1822.n202.z1.fidonet.org, CHNet 371:30/1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6wjl iQCVAgUBLkZzbMlPrmStIlSlAQHLHQP/d4aeg6TxGsw0/l5quewbkendrPYwmdT/ LOTvMQyNeD4AJCzRppGHbkVFkvSQT/Kirlmch9f1oFZCqsP5a1h1jO7sugdB6dBZ WnSb1QUMx8JrTCWH7sjE21lInq/2mqRHKtgq/IXyE7TKcBv9gj4rTxoy2dY2y3F0 KrhhBk5pSAU= =dSUI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718