From: Scott Brush Area: THE_OASIS To: Mors Justi 3 Sep 92 20:04:32 Subject: Re: RE. THIS ELECTION YEAR UpdReq I share your great concern over the Democratic vice presidential candidate's wife, Tipper Gore. Heavy Metal music is the greatest music I've ever heard from modern times. It engenders ecstacy in me and raises my Kundalini in vast corruscations of firy joy. It is the music of Ra Hoor Khuit. Since the PMRC came out with their religious fanatical ravings I was outraged and have harbored deep hatred for the bitch, Tipper Gore. May she suffer till she dies for her unwarranted tyranny. However, judging from how much power a vice president is given, I doubt the Second Lady has much as well. For me, I've decided to vote for Bill Clinton because I like him as a man, a politician, and especially because he evaded the draft of that evil, fruitless crime against humanity called the Vietnam conflict. I understand only too well your desire for greater freedom of speech and disdain with the current Fascistic regime. If there was a snowball's chance in Hell that the Libertarians could win I'd vote that way. As it is, the Democrats are the best hope against the neo-Nazi, fanatically religious Republicans - unAmerican dogs all. It's sad but true that human beings have difficulty changing. The leap from right-wing Republican to freedom-loving Libertarian is probably too far for this country to make in one election. I think of the Democrats as a step in the right direction. Despite 10,000 years of cultural evolution humanity can only move with baby steps. I support the Democrats as the most likely-to-be-elected alternative to the totalitarianism the Republican pigs are sure to inflict upon us. With respect to your statement about guns, I couldn't agree with you more. Weapons are our only defense against intruders in our homes and lives. If we Americans lose our precious right to bear arms we will be utterly helpless in the face of a careless, domineering government. We will lose our freedom, unable to defend it. It's so true that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. So, let's be vigilant and build those gun collections. How 'bout some explosives, too. The time for another American revolution is rapidly approaching. We can either make it happen naturally and peacefully, showing strength, or we can destroy the current civilization with civil war and massive bloodshed. I for one would like to be prepared for either course. Remember, as Liber Oz says, "Man has the right to kill those who would thwart these rights." Freedom or destruction!!! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Narthoniel Area: THE_OASIS To: Lewis Cypher 4 Sep 92 17:10:34 Subject: Re: FASCISM U.S.A. UpdReq Quoting L.C.: > It is also OK with me that you have nothing to say, other than my well > written post was Bullshit, while the mere fact that you deign to grace my > post with a condensending statement that you are the superior being and > since that is so you need not reveal the infinate wisdom of your point of > view, but just stay your opponent with a hearty blast of critique, and the > godlike powers of your intellect would be there for all to see. Not to be ::TOO:: bitchy here, but Lewis, the above is a run-on sentence which is NOT correct English and is NOT illustrative of a "well written" post. Verbosity does not equal eloquence. It would probably be more productive for you to cite specific examples of how you have been personally affected by fascism rather than fulminating against an entity which existance you have failed to prove. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Wind-Walker Area: THE_OASIS To: Michael Lee 2 Sep 92 18:40:10 Subject: Fascism U.S.A. UpdReq quoting MICHAEL LEE To: LEWIS CYPHER ___------------------------------------------------------------------------ ML}>First, the fact that you can spew this drivel is an ML}>indication that much of what you say is not quite right. ML}>In your case freedom of speech seems to be alive and well. Freedom of Speech is extinct in the usa If you feel otherwise then explain why the following are not examples indicating that freedomn of speech is a myth #1: Ice-T having to withdraw "Cop-Killer" from several markets #2: Intelligent Hoodlums have to pull "Bullet" off their _forthecoming_ album "Black Rage." Boo-Yaa Tribe having to withdraw circulation of "Shoot 'em Down", nationwide. The national council of Arts awarding grants to artists, and then pulling them because the proposed work might be offensive to some. Florida trying to mandate the use on english exclusively, by making it the official language. Florida libraries having to defend keeping 47 books on their shelves. Texas libraries have had 27 books targeted for removal. Libraries in 46 states have had books targetted for removal. << and note that doesn't include books that the library wasn't able to get due to budget, or other << especially other >> considerations. << the easiest way to force a public library to toe the line politically, is to slash its book budget in half for three years. Its a rare tlibrary that recovers from that sort of threat. >> & don't forget to look at obscenity statutes in the various states. Or just at federal statutes, and at proposed federal statutes. << ever thought you'd live to see the day that B Dalton, or Waldenbooks gets closed down, because it sells hard-core pornography === well under some proposed << quietly dropped, but being refloated >> rules virtually every book sold by those two chain would be , or would have the potential to violate proposed federal obscenity statutes? >> Explain why the FBI should be allowed to read every message on the internet, and target for further surveillance those who ideas are antithetical to its continued role as the NSVD's kid brother. ML}>If our freedoms are threatened, then its from the tyranny ML}>of the masses,not the tyranny of a dictatorship. Although The masses have no thought, except that thought put in them by its leaders -- its dictators. Hitler showed that off beautifully. Other leaders have been equally successfull in so doing. ML}>words ultimately can mean whatever you want them to mean, ML}>let's be consistent in out terms. What you mean by ML}>dictatorship is not what is commonly subscribed to. read up on your us constitutional law. effectively, the president of the us can assume pure autocratic, dictatorial powers, with nothing to counter him so doing. << feminist's i use him deliberately --- the power establishment won't allow a female to president, or non-white for at least another twenty years, probably fourty to fifty. >> Furthermore, the supreme court of the us, has allready given its legal blessing for the president to so do. & if any president does so do, the only effective way to stop him will be by termination with extreme prejudice, of him and every living body within 100 kilometers of him. ML}>The threat to our freedoms is not from some generalized conspiracy against ML}>"free-thinkers", but from the overwhelming inertia of ML}>burueacracy. It might be bureacratically inertia, but i doubt that intensly. The real threat to freedoms come in not defending freedom at its fringes --- regardless of one's personal view of those fringes, and the habitues. 93 wind-walker * SLMR 2.1a * Coming to this tagline soon, a NEW HAM call sign 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Wind-Walker Area: THE_OASIS To: Gerald Del Campo 5 Sep 92 03:53:22 Subject: this election Yea UpdReq quoting GERALD DEL CAMPO To: MORS JUSTI ___------------------------------------------------------------------------ GDC}>In my opinion: Republicans are committed to spending money GDC}>in behalf of big business interest overseas. The Democrats GDC}>will be spending the same amount of money here, in America, GDC}>on education and health care. The choice is yours. they both are commited to spedning money stolen from honest people to support dis-honest people --- politicians. 93 wind-walker * SLMR 2.1a * Cogito ergo spud: I think therefore I yam. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718