From: Neuro Sonic Area: Night Side To: Frater Almost 2 Jul 92 21:01:26 Subject: Use the Force Luke! Rec'd UpdReq Is it really that rare for Caliphate member's to be involved with Darkside Technique? From Bate Cabal Literature, I got the idea that many of the Lone Wolves of Caliphate were experimenting hand in hand with those interested in Night Side practices. Neuro Sonic 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Neuro Sonic Area: Night Side To: Azoth 2 Jul 92 21:04:06 Subject: E.O.D. UpdReq ahhhhhhrrrrgghhhhh......!!!!! I didn't like the sound of one of those last messages. >same E.O.D. that got involoved with the occult breakup currently underway in > England. Shoot, I just mailed my letter last week! Oh well... at least I used my MailDrop Address. Azoth, Do you have the Bate Cabal working, in which inter-temporal rifts are used to scry and communicate with Past or Future realities? If so I'd like to take a look at it. I realized this past weekend how much personal work I have ahead of me, but it still nice to Grandeur every once and a while. What kinds of careers do you find that most Magicians/DarkSiders lead? I'm just wondering what else their is available besides Poet/Author/Programmer/Actor/Musician/Mystic. I've tried working other fields, but the intolerable ignorance of my Bosses destroy my patience. It's a sure thing, many of the world's highest philosopher's probably snarled at the thought of Washing dishes in a sh_thole listening to the latest Rap music. Over and Over again.... 93 93/93 Neuro Sonic P.S. Leave me some Netmail so we can meet some time, missed ya at Paul's, I was planning on lending you some of these tunes for Listening enjoyment (knowing you would never dare break a copywrite law.) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: The Moonshadow Area: Night Side To: Theseus 30 Jun 92 06:30:06 Subject: California UpdReq |TT> Not for long! If the Constitutional amendment just put on | |TT> the State Legislature floor passes, our dear beloved state | |TT> would be split into THREE parts (we here in San Diego | |TT> would get LA, alas)! | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ oh dont worry about that, we here in nj have been trying to do that for decades! (split nj, not california!) btw--is the ground still shakin out there? ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: The Moonshadow Area: Night Side To: Theseus 30 Jun 92 06:30:08 Subject: Hypno-Getsures UpdReq |TT> BTW--Omar really talked like that, stating his name after | |TT> referring to himself in the third person. It got to the | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ what a howl! my dentist does the same thing! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: The Moonshadow Area: Night Side To: Nrrys 30 Jun 92 06:30:10 Subject: Satanism and Socialia Rec'd UpdReq |NN> X OLX 2.1 TD X Jesus saves sinners and redeems them for VALUABLE prize| +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ hey, why should he get all the benefit?? ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: The Moonshadow Area: Night Side To: Josh 30 Jun 92 06:30:12 Subject: This echo UpdReq |JJ> This echo is NOT what it used to be. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ neither are any of us! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: The Moonshadow Area: Night Side To: Tony Iannotti 30 Jun 92 06:30:14 Subject: This Echo And Base Oe Rec'd UpdReq |TI> I am here, back, and almost whole. Do we need a direct link to Purgator| +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ well, i've heard of going straight to hell, but... :) ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: The Moonshadow Area: Night Side To: Charles Nemo 30 Jun 92 06:30:16 Subject: This echo and BASE OF SE Rec'd UpdReq |CN> Thanks for documenting the problem with lack of messages. | |CN> I had started to think people might be losing interest in | |CN> the LHP. ];-) | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ now we're getting duplicates up the wazoo! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Almost Area: Night Side To: Azoth 4 Jul 92 02:57:28 Subject: Assumption Of Moderators Sent UpdReq I, too, have been interested in the "Aklo" language since I've read of it in HPL's stuff. That is interesting..... The hands of Yog-Sothoth. No, I haven't heard of the Booke. Please elaborate! :) As to the Invocation being performed as a form of banishment... That does have potential! The idea that I had from using the Nek was that anything you could anticipate from a ritual, the opposite would be brought about. (Re-read "The Haunter of the Dark" for more of how I personally feel on this subject!) This is interesting. Let us know of your further progress! :) Pax et Nox. 93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Almost Area: Night Side To: Mark Krubsack 4 Jul 92 03:01:42 Subject: Sound-Off! Sent UpdReq Great! Love it! Beautiful! I love ya, Hawkwind! ;* ;) Thanks for the response! :) Pax et Nox. 93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Almost Area: Night Side To: Neuro Sonic 4 Jul 92 03:03:34 Subject: Use the Force Luke! Sent UpdReq First off, I love the subject line.... Watched those again the other night, too, eh? ;) Seriously, I guess it is not that rare. I suppose though that most Caliphate members are just into their own thingy. Oh well, I know a few that can throw some serious night-side voodoo into effect and scare the living shit out-a even me! <> Oh well, Pax et Nox! 93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Almost Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 4 Jul 92 03:06:52 Subject: This echo and BASE OF SE Sent UpdReq TM> now we're getting duplicates up the wazoo! TM> ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 Well then, make sure that your wazoo is nice and clean so that it doesn't get infected and then take a nice, long, ennema. ;) Sorry, I may be moderaotr but I just can't help myself sometimes! :) No offence! Pax et Nox. 93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Azoth 4 Jul 92 09:01:12 Subject: New Equinox reprints Sent UpdReq E-Gads! That's a lot of money! Maybe I can cut a deal with someone for photocopies... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Amazon Lil 4 Jul 92 09:02:50 Subject: Dark, dark and dusty.... Sent UpdReq AL> The best thing about being a Goddess is that you AL> can give God-Head... When the people I confound Hahahahha! AL> FROMMING...Freaking Out the AL> Normals. (one of my favorite passtimes.....you AL> gotta love it!) Does this have a word origin involving the infamous `Squeaky Fromm'? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Mark Krubsack 4 Jul 92 09:04:56 Subject: Kenneth Grant Sent UpdReq Do you have any of his poetry? It's pretty good... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Frater Almost 4 Jul 92 09:17:44 Subject: Assisstance required Rec'd Sent UpdReq FA> Hell! If you haven't done anything to reproduce it FA> electronically then don't sweat it! Let 'em take FA> ya to court and then, when they fuss and bluster FA> and rant and rave simply say, "I didn't do anything FA> of the sort" and watch them spend about $10,000 in FA> attorney fees and court costs! That'll teach 'em! This actually very GOOD advice! They can't sue if you haven't done anything, or recover damages for something that didn't happen. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Azoth 4 Jul 92 09:21:38 Subject: Kenneth Grant Sent UpdReq A> Grant books currently in print from Skoob Esoterica (London): A> _Hidden_Lore_(previously the _Carfax_Monographs_) - $90 A> _Remembering_Aleister_Crowley_ - $60 A> _The_Magickal_Revival - $50 A> Their expressed intention is to reprint each book of the trilogies, A> _Hidden_God_ and _Cults_ being the next likely A> candidates after Hecate's_ A> Fountain_, which has been delayed due, I am told, to a breakdown of A> the presses they were using. Contrary to earlier reports, _Fountain_ Hey, thanx! You just saved me the effort of finding this out myself. A> Unfortunately, Skoob apparently has no intention of reprinting Grants A> work on AO Spare, and the street price on that one A> is upwards of $300..... Images and Oracles of Austin Osman Spare has been available in photocopy form from TOPY for $13. I'm not sure if it still is. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Frater Solis-Serpentis 4 Jul 92 09:28:50 Subject: Kenneth Grant Sent UpdReq FS> That's the one I'm looking for--Hecate's Fountain. Please keep FS> me posted! I have original first editions of almost FS> everything else. Geez, prices sure are getting outrageously high! I'm on what may be called a mailing list and should hear about this fairly early when it is actually out. I'll get an update. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Neuro Sonic 4 Jul 92 09:32:00 Subject: E.O.D. Sent UpdReq NS> Shoot, I just mailed my letter last week! NS> Oh well... at least I used my MailDrop Address. You'll probably get it back, the official mailing addresses have been closed and the organization is `sleeping' at present. NS> What kinds of careers do you find that most NS> Magicians/DarkSiders lead? I'm just wondering what NS> else their is available besides NS> Poet/Author/Programmer/Actor/Musician/Mystic. I've You'll find them in plenty of `ordinary' professions. I personally know small business owners, teachers, aromaticists (if that's the right word for someone who makes aromatic oils...) lawyers, waiters, you name it. 22 oops... NS> sure thing, many of the world's highest NS> philosopher's probably snarled at the thought of NS> Washing dishes in a sh_thole listening to the NS> latest Rap music. A lot of philosphers, with their minds on more important things than career goals, make livings in sh_thole jobs. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 4 Jul 92 09:38:04 Subject: California Sent UpdReq |TT> Not for long! If the Constitutional amendment |TT> just put on | |TT> the State Legislature floor passes, our dear |TT> beloved state | |TT> would be split into THREE parts (we here in |TT> San Diego | |TT> would get LA, alas)! With the recent earthshakes, the splits may be literal. ;) Did you know Scotland has been yapping about separation from the UK recently? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 4 Jul 92 09:39:50 Subject: Hypno-Getsures Sent UpdReq |TT> BTW--Omar really talked like that, stating his |TT> name after | |TT> referring to himself in the third person. It Is that the same as what Nick Frost does? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Almost Area: Night Side To: All 4 Jul 92 12:31:12 Subject: Kenneth Grant, Chaos, Dark-side stuff, etc.Sent UpdReq Okay folks, here's an idea from your loving moderator.... Why not go ahead and treat these subjects as if everybody on this echo base didn't quite understand them. Let us all assume (and make an ass out of u and me!) that new-comers have very little knowledge of what is going on and try to make it very easy for them to understand the gist of this area. Every so often, someone may wish to post a very "simple" message explaining A.O. Spare and what "sigilation" is, and/or who KKenneth Grant is and the difference between his "Typhonian" O.T.O and the Caliphate O.T.O. <> ;-) Seriously, though, I suddenly realised that this echo is getting quite technical in it's treatment of certain subjects.... Thus, in order not to frighten anybody away with over-the-head chit-chat, we need some folks to start conducting "classes" in what is meant by these certain technical aspects of dark-side magick.... Any takers? Pax et Nox. 93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Charles Nemo Area: Night Side To: Azoth 4 Jul 92 14:48:36 Subject: Lumley & HPL Sent UpdReq A> Was that EOD the group operating out of Leeds, by A> any chance? Quality work A> in the Lovecraftian vein is regrettibly hard to A> find. I've just located a A> hardbound copy of Lumley's _House_Of_Cthulhu_, A> from Ganley. Fairly rare, A> but great artwork, and oversize. Do you do Lumley? There's some wild A> correlation between his _Burrowers_Beneath_ and A> some extremely disturbing A> visions/dreams experienced by a young lady in A> Grant's Nu-Isis Lodge... Yes, that was the group. Indeed, quality work a la HPL is almost as rare as the proverbial hen's teeth. I have read all of the Wamphyri novels and a few other things, but I am not familiar with _House_of_Cthulhu_. Is it purely a novel, or something more? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Charles Nemo Area: Night Side To: Azoth 4 Jul 92 15:04:04 Subject: Necronomicon Sent UpdReq I have not seen the Owlswick Press version but passed it up when it was originally sold at $25.00 because I had heard from reliable sources that it was indeed a joke, consisting of repetitive pages of phony Arabic-looking script. I recently saw the Hay version offered in very good condition for $235.00! Previously the price had been in the $75.00 range. It's due to be reprinted by Skoob Books in 1993, which I would guess would bring it into the $45.00-60.00 range if Skoob's recent prices are any realistic indication of the future.... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Charles Nemo Area: Night Side To: Azoth 4 Jul 92 15:26:42 Subject: Something Dark... Sent UpdReq A> Thanks, I'll check it out! I'm in the mood for something DARK.... Then you might also want to check out Lustmord's "Heresy" and Nocturnal Emissions' "Invocation of the Beast Gods". Both exceptionally dark.... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Charles Nemo Area: Night Side To: Neuro Sonic 4 Jul 92 15:31:34 Subject: E.O.D. Sent UpdReq NS> ahhhhhhrrrrgghhhhh......!!!!! NS> I didn't like the sound of one of those last messages. >same E.O.D. that got involoved with the occult >breakup currently underway in > England. NS> Shoot, I just mailed my letter last week! NS> Oh well... at least I used my MailDrop Address. Good choice! The P.O. Box has been closed. A special police unit centered in Leeds has been investigating a wide variety of so-called "occult" activities, and it even made a raid on the home of TOPY founder Genesis P-Orridge while he and his family were vacationing in the Far East. They are unable to return to England for fear of having their two daughters taken from them by the Inquisition.... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718