From: Diane Vera Area: Night Side To: Balanone 5 Apr 92 10:25:14 Subject: Re: Phil Marsh and Tani Jantsang Sent UpdReq On April 2, you responded to my March 30 message to All, "Phil Marsh and Tani Jantsang": . DV > Speaking of unusual forms of Satanism, has anyone here had any dealings with Phil Marsh or Tani Jantsang? If so, what are your impressions of them? I recently got a long letter from Tani Jantsang in response to my open letter to GREEN EGG which was printed in the latest ABRASAX. . B > This is the first I've heard of them. What are your impressions? .So far, I'll just say they seem to be into an unusual blend of Satanism, Wicca, goy Qabalah, quasi-Masonry, and I'm not sure what all. Also they, like the editor of DARK LILY, make the improbable claim that "Satanism" is older than Christianity. .They have an ad in the latest issue of BLACK FLAME (Fall/Winter XXVI, which just came out this past week). They sell photocopies of articles they've written. The heading of their ad says, "SATANIC DOCTRINES THROUGH THE AGES: AN ANCIENT TRADITION (NOT a religion, NOT inverse Christianity)". .In her letter to me, Tani Jantsang says, among many other things, "The origin of Satan is not christian, it is not even Jewish. SAT is sanskrit, it means 'the ONE immutable boundless darkness'. Same as the Pythagorean 'Apeiron' or 'TO EN'. 'TO PAN' is 'THE ALL', i.e., PAN. The horned headed image can even be shown in a rubbing from ancient China which looks remarkably Hellenic and has the SAME compas [sic] and T-square shown. The article on the Serpent Race VERSUS the Adamic Race goes back to the Puranas, a non-Aryan or PRE- Aryan Sanskrit book." .As I said, seems *very* improbable. (Among other problems, how can a Sanskrit book be "pre-Aryan"?) I will wait with making further comments until I've seen more of their literature. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Azoth Area: Night Side To: Kater Karlo 4 Apr 92 21:53:50 Subject: Pact Psychonomicon UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. -=> Quoting Kater Karlo to Nosferat <=- KK> His new book, Liber Kaos & Psychonomicon is not yet available in KK> public (but will also be from S.Weiser), but we have produced a first KK> pact internal edition of 400 copies of which I have a few left (and I KK> think that you won't get it anywhere else). KK> Interested? I am interested in obtaining same, if you have available. The brief extracts I've seen on HaditNet are intriguing in extremis. Love is the law, love under will. ... There is no law beyond. Do what thou wilt. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tim Maroney Area: Night Side To: The Sinistar 4 Apr 92 06:36:48 Subject: RE: Re: freethinkers don't censor UpdReq I've moderated electronic mailing lists, and I've been using electronic messaging systems for over ten years now, so you can save the "You've obviously never ran a BBS for any length of time." I have more experience than you do. Once again, you are completely failing to engage the free speech issues. All youc an say is that you really don't like the guy and his posting style, so you are perfectly justified in denying himn the right to speak. You've added the new twist that it's OK to censor him because other people have censored him. Please, stop and think about what you're doing, and what attitudes like yours do to the world. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718