From: Theseus Area: Night Side To: Paul Reid 2 Apr 92 23:25:58 Subject: Re: DEATH UpdReq I recently officiated at a small circle that was called after an online friend had committed suicide via an overdose of penicillin(!). Those calling for the circle had wanted a seance, but, as the only metaphysician they knew, I had to work with what I knew. What I did was a group Tarot reading. I had everyone visualise the person while I shuffled the cards, telling them to SEE that person as the one doing the actual placement of the cards. Since the main question on everyone's mind was, "Why?", I did a Celtic Cross, showing the person's state of mind at the time of his death. This answered most of the questions, and told us more than we wanted to know (and also things we would rather NOT have known). After that, I had each person (it was a small circle--only 5 in attendance) ask whatever question they might, trying to stay away from typical Hollywood seance questions like, "Is Uncle Andy with you?" etc. This we did within the confines of a traditionally cast Wiccan circle...I wasn't about to take any chances with any malevolent powers that might have been floating around the group of grieving men. I talked everyone through the ritual, explaining what I was doing and why, and had them visualise the circle's casting as well. I told them of various beliefs regarding death and suicide, and explained to them that perhaps, according to MY belief, the reason they were all still unsettled after a fortnight was that our friend was still "hanging" around, halfway between life and afterlife. After we had learned what we could from him, we would give him a "push" to assist him in going on to whatever was in store for him. After the readings were done, I took the Altar candle, which I had people visualise as the guest of honour, and placed it in the middle of the circle. I then led them in a power raising visualisation, and then we "sent" the love energy to the person, so that his soul might rest. All this I did mainly for the benefit of the living (as are all funerals). *I* knew that, whatever happened, these people would feel much better and be able to rest easier knowing that they had been able to communicate with our friend, and had done what they could to assist him on his journey. I must say, it was one of the more powerful rituals I have participated in, and I have rarely seen more accurate Tarot readings. Whatever happened that night, we DID do something. And, a group of basically Xian-identified people was exposed to what Witches REALLY did. I think some friendship bonds were strengthened, as well. Theseus ...There's -gotta- be a Grail around here somewhere.... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Theseus Area: Night Side To: Paul Reid 2 Apr 92 23:31:06 Subject: Re: SPELL BOOKS UpdReq Paul made a hypnotic gesture, and this message appeared ... > look deeply into someone's eyes & tell them you are a vampire & have > control of their soul. this is capable of manifesting instant > feces. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I should try that next time a date gets boring..... Thes ...When forced to choose between two evils, choose the new one. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Theseus Area: Night Side To: Charles Nemo 2 Apr 92 23:43:42 Subject: Re: THREEFOLD PAYBACK? UpdReq Charles (writing to Diane) made a hypnotic gesture, and this message appeared ... > Yes, I had noticed Nemesis' wide swing as well -- from obvious > Satanism to Wicca! > > I smell a rat. Do bear in mind that Nemesis is still at the very confused age of 16. (No, I'm not flaming you, Nem, just stating facts.) I talk(chat) with him on a semi-regular basis (we log on to the same board here in Insane Diego), and he DOES tend to swing from one extreme to the next. He can also be obtuse and not use the right words to say what he means. Give the kid a break. He's legit, he's just learning. I only wish *I* had been exposed to this stuff at his age. At 16, I was still struggling with a forcefed diet of Fundamentalist Charismatic Xianity! Thesesus ...If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Balanone Area: Night Side To: Paul Reid 2 Apr 92 16:31:08 Subject: Re: Death UpdReq On 28 Mar 92 17:25:00, Paul Reid posted a message to All concerning "Death"... PR> has anyone here ever done a pagan function at a funeral or memorial PR> service? what kinds of ceremonies do you do to help the passage of PR> the soul? i'm only aware of planting a tree & dedicating it to the PR> deceased. Depending upon your views of death, you might be able to adapt a class of ceremony I've used ... the treating of physical death as a "rite of passage" into whatever might lie on the "other side", and a magical gift of strength / power / compassion to the departed to increase their ability to succeed at this rather traumatic form of initiation. Balanone PP ... It doesn't matter if it's impossible, just as long as it works! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Balanone Area: Night Side To: Diane Vera 2 Apr 92 16:35:28 Subject: Re: Phil Marsh and Tani Jantsang UpdReq On 30 Mar 92 19:55:26, Diane Vera posted a message to All concerning "Phil Marsh and Tani Jantsang"... DV> Speaking of unusual forms of Satanism, has anyone here had any DV> dealings with Phil Marsh or Tani Jantsang? If so, what are your DV> impressions of them? I recently got a long letter from Tani DV> Jantsang in response to my open letter to GREEN EGG which was DV> printed in the latest ABRASAX. This is the first I've heard of them. What are your impressions? Balanone PP ... Keep your grubby little hands off this tagline! I stole it first! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Glenn Sieb Area: Night Side To: Paul Reid 1 Apr 92 15:07:00 Subject: Heya guys/gals! UpdReq PR>i can't locate the bead shop by the firehouse in mo'town. PR>what side PR>of the street is it on? Well, it's on the same side of the street as the Mission. It's called Riverstone, and it's a small shop... (They're also in the Yellow Pages, under BEADS) B*B Glenn (BTW: I'm here because I can't afford the LD bills.. :} ) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718