From: Tony Iannotti Area: Mundane To: All 14 May 95 16:12:04 Subject: YOYOW UpdReq I am forwarding this from Mark Dery. He wants contact with some people in these echos whom he is quoting. * Original Area: LOCAL * Original To : all (1:107/946) * Originally by markdery@well.sf.ca.us, 1:107/933 * Originally to Tony Iannotti, 1:107/946 * Originally dated 5 Apr 1995, 13:28 To All Echo-Mail Participants in BaphoNet Echo Area 30, the "CyberMage" Topic: I recently completed a critical inquiry into fringe computer culture, _Escape Velocity: Cyberculture at the End of the Century_;it will be published by Grove in Fall, 1995. In my chapter on technopaganism, I quote several participants in BaphoNet's "CyberMage" topic. In keeping with Netiquette and the unspoken YOYOW rule that prevails on BBS's, I'm trying to contact the various echo-mailers whose posts I quote so that I might secure their permission to quote them in my book. I've attached the posts and posters in question, and would greatly appreciate e-mail to markdery@well.sf.ca.us from all involved, letting me whether or not I may quote you in my book. While Grove is sufficiently stingy with complimentary copies that I'm not able to provide every poster with a free copy of _Escape Velocity_, I _will_ notify you when the book is published, so that you may scan it at local bookstores or libraries. Thanking you in advance, M. Dery Quotes (all, as noted, are from "CyberMage," BaphoNet Echo Area 30): Tony Lane, August 7, '91: For too long magick has looked backward. So often I hear about "traditional" Native American this and authentic Egyptian/Celtic/Hunan that. Sorry folks--- there are very few "authentic" magickal items/rituals/practices out there...Something might SEEM stronger if it is wrapped in the mystique of...bear clan tribal blood, blah blah blah. I have no doubt that this WAS a very powerful spell (and might still be one) for a member of the bear clan. If you are a CPA from Burbank I doubt that there is much there for you...I feel there is a better way...[T]he central idea of CYBERMAGE [is]: MAGICK that uses the current world is more powerful because it is more personal to the magician. In many of the magical ancient cultures magick and science were often the same thing. Imagine if they could see what our science today can do! They would worship us as GODS...If in our work we could meld science and magick we could [work] wonders. We could cure and create and build things man has never seen nor dreamed of. But first we have to turn away from the...traditional ways and branch out into new areas, [exploring]...the parallels between a magickal spell and a computer program and the possibility of having an electrical familiar. Glenn Sieb, Jan. 7, 1992: If one entered cyberspace, would there be a whole new pantheon of gods involved, or do you think we'd still be able to call on those that have been around a while? Aga Windwalker (a.k.a. J. Palmer), August 9, 1992: One day, I was chatting with [my friend's] boyfriend [on a BBS] when he suddenly typed "GM" (which meant that the girl was going into a seizure and he had to go to her). I sat back and waited, then suddenly reached up, and touching my monitor, started channeling energy. Through the monitor, down the cable, through the PC, into the modem, across the phone lines, and into her computer. I visualized it surrounding her, helping her. According to both of them, something DID happen. The boyfriend said he heard a sound from the computer, but couldn't figure what it was. About that same moment, the girl stopped shuddering and called out my name. It wasn't a statement, it was almost a confused question...After a few moments...she was all right. As she opened her eyes she said she saw me hovering over her, and that I simply faded INTO her computer monitor and disappeared. Farrell McGovern, Feb. 13, 1993: Programs are the 'ritual' for invoking the appropriate action...[O]nce you have "compiled" and "run" your ritual once, you really don't need to again, since that energy pattern is now in your head...You just invoke the magickal headspace that the original "source" ritual created! 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