From: Fir Area: Mundane To: Ace Lightning 28 May 94 07:15:00 Subject: Posting the Banns UpdReq AL> BANNS OF HANDFASTING: Judith Sefer Harrow and Corilane Gwyneth AL> Cathyl-Bickford, having made their vows on the 25th of March, AL> 1994, AL> declare their intention to celebrate their marriage in the AL> presence of AL> their friends, colleagues and the Elder Gods, on June 19th, 1994, Please give Judy my blessings in this matter. I know her from when she used to attend some of Tzipora and Frank's circles, and from MAPPCAF ofcourse (Mid Atlantic Pan Pagan Conference and Festival). My very first circle was an open Lammas in Central Park and Judy was one of the people there. That was back in the days of Judy and Fred and Brian. Judy has given much to the magickal community at large and she deserves the best in everything. And since you're hanging with that crowd, if you know a gentleman with a sailboat who is calling himself Orion these days, please say hi! Blessed Be, Fir 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Thomas Izaguirre Area: Mundane To: Crat 29 May 94 00:09:46 Subject: Randoids UpdReq C> And thus they stopped being producers and became C> parasites which the system C> either destroyed or they became politically well- C> connected and even worse C> parasites. Rand apparently believed in enlightened C> self-interest; i.e. you C> did your best and allowed others to do so also. C> What you are blaming on C> Reagan is the development of the mass mentality that government should C> provide everything for everybody with no cost to the C> individual. If the ATLANTIC MONTHLY by Jack Beatty entitled "Who Speaks For The Middle Class," the most lucid exposition of this country's current economic crisis and some very politically inccorect solutions for it that neither side will ever embrace. In any event, one of the reason for the demise of the Middle Class is stated: "Wall Street's unceasing presure for bigger and bigger dividends, sooner and sooner. By forcing companies to curtail investment in order to pay the high dividends demanded by institutional investors, "Wall Street has become the prime cause of U.S. deindustrialization," Will Hutton, the author of a book on Keynesian economics, writes in THE AMERICAN PROSPECT. Thus the real economy gets hollowed out in order to satisfy the casino economy. And yet this is how financial markets are suppposed to work--restlessly, impatiently, with bloodless rationality. In other words, the clash between what Wall Street wants and what Main Street needs is not a flaw in the system. It IS the system." C> Darn, missed that interview (I was in Jr. High at the time and mommy C> wouldn't let me read Playboy - which probably explains a lot .....). It is part of the most recent compilation of interviews PLAYBOY published. Inquire at your magazine dealer. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Thomas Izaguirre Area: Mundane To: Diogenes 29 May 94 00:22:10 Subject: Insights on Gay Bashers UpdReq The May 1994 issue of DETAILS has an article called "In God's Country" by John Weir, a gay Christian who details the current wave of anti-gay propoganda and the people behind it. Most notably, "This is the Springs of Life Ministries, a Christian evangelical church in the high Mojave Desert an hour northeast of Los Angeles. It is the church that reordained disgraced televangelist Jim Bakker before he went to prison. And its leaders Ty and Jeannette Beeson executive produced "THE GAY AGENDA," the notorious twenty-one minute video supplied to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Congress during last year's debate on gays in the military...Last summer, Reverend Lou Sheldon's Orange County-based Traditional Values Coalition, A Christian lobbying group, produced "GAY RIGHTS/SPECIAL RIGHTS" to generate anti-gay feeling in the black community. The forty-minute tape depicts homosexuals as a gang of high-income whites co-opting the civil rights movement in order to recruit the young, cow the government, mesmerize the press, and spread disease." What sets this article apart is that, like the documentary "BLOOD IN THE FACE," Weir refuses to depict these people as monsters. They are otherwise decent and caring individuals who happen to harbor and nurture monstrous thoughts. He is also self aware enough to note, "This is not a church but an activist enclave, and Beeson refers to his parishioners as soldiers engaged in a war. He talks about "volunterring" for the Lord and taking America back. Looking around the room, I can see people losing themselves to the romance of becoming "empowered." I know their glassy-eyed expressions intimately, for I have worn it myself at ACT-UP demonstrations and at AIDS and gay activist meetings. It is the blissful, thoughtless glow of surrendering to the collective agenda." Get this mag while it is still at your newsstands, boys and girls. --Call me Dutchboy... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: Mundane To: Josh Norton 30 May 94 14:57:02 Subject: Re: yes, i do insist.. ( UpdReq -=> Josh Norton sent a message to Sis on 28 May 94 20:41:00 <=- -=> Re: Re: yes, i do insist.. ( <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. JN> I'm not entirely without sin in the bickering & flaming department, JN> but I do wish these fellows would take themselves off to somewhere JN> where I don't have to read them -- preferably off-net. A plague on both their houses (hice)? Love is the law, love under will. - CP ... Let the milk of the stars be drunk up by Sebek the dweller of Nile! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Thomas Izaguirre Area: Mundane To: Dodger 29 May 94 23:07:10 Subject: Hello! UpdReq I moved here from the vicinity of College Park four years ago and like to keep up with what's happening over yonder. Are you involved in the local sci-fi/fantasy fandom and are you familiar with one Amelia G? Hope to hear from you soon... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Farrell McGovern Area: Mundane To: Ace Lightning 29 May 94 11:56:42 Subject: CCfC UpdReq On May 18 10:41 94, Ace Lightning of 93:9305/143 wrote: LL>>Explosive myths are the best kind, David. AL> TAGLINED! LL>>... Miskatonic University...why study LESSER evils? AL> Cthulhu For President! Why vote for the LESSER of two AL> evils? Campus Crusade for Cthulu...it found ME! ttyl, Farrell 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: The Cegorach Area: Mundane To: Frank Short 1 Jun 94 09:20:06 Subject: Mr. Short: UpdReq -=> Frank Short said to Kevin Bold (25 May 94 23:25:54) <=- Re: Yes, I do insist... FS> KB> If the way you've behaved on the Thelema echo, and the way FS> KB> you've behaved towards me, is any indicator of how you FS> KB> behaved at Ouroboros Camp, then your problems are no FS> KB> mystery. Dear Mr. Short: A short lesson for your amusement and possible education, in view of your two-part post to Kevin (including public re-posting of private mail): When someone accuses you of being rude, abrasive, and/or obnoxious, cranking up the asshole factor is hardly the most appropriate response. Larry 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718