From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Liana 27 Apr 94 12:43:06 Subject: RE. KITCHEN WITCH UpdReq LI>Heh... I only use it to grease pans... that's what I assumed you were >referring to... when a recipe calls for shortening, I usually either use >butter or split the amount between margerine and butter. Why margarine? It has the same calories and saturated fat as butter, and doesn't taste anywhere near as good. LI> AL> Depends on *which* essential oil...there are a few that are approved > AL> for use as flavorings. LI>One of several, depending on my mood... usually amber essence, sometimes >clove, sometimes sandlewood. Ah well...the only "edible" one is clove... LI> AL> I used to make cookies and take them to school (HS and college) and/or > AL> work, just to confuse people. I've always been a very "butch"-acting > AL> person, more into machinery, electronics, and esoteric intellectual > AL> pursuits than any "traditional" female/domestic role. But I am also a > AL> damned good cook. Can you say, "cognitive dissonance", boyz'n'grrls? > AL> ;-) LI>Congi... contie... coGniTive dissonance... {whew!} Oh come on...;-) ("Cognitive dissonance" is another way of saying "I like to blow people's minds"!) LI>Well, I'm single and the only dependants I have are my cats who don't >mind. I'm not usually directing specific energy anyhow... just tuning >in to the Gods and pouring it into the batter... it has a trancing >affect in a way. You want something that'll trance you right out, knead yeast dough by hand! SLMR 2.0 Never wear anything that panics the cat! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Gwenny The Pooh 27 Apr 94 12:43:10 Subject: Kitchen Witch UpdReq GTP> AL> My basic cookbook is Fannie Farmer (since my ancestors all came from > AL> the Boston area). I've worn out three copies in 21 years of marriage. GTP>Oh, my favorite, too. My second copy was "borrowed" by a neighbor four >years ago....but someone just gave me a new one....sigh... And how long do you think it'll take before *this* one wears out? ;-) GTP>Wild Hunter and I LOVE Chinese....our kids HATE it. Oh, no, not stirfry >again..... My son eats *anything*. Well, when I make stir-fry, he won't eat any of my kung bo tofu, and sometimes he doesn't like things as spicy as my husband and I do, but generally, if it's food....well, he's a teenage boy; need I say more? GTP>I'd love to hear it....some of my friends have pretty good luck with those >bread makers...but they are four thousand feet lower than me. Sigh. I don't like the idea of the bread machine; just dump everything in it, walk away, and a few hours later you have bread. Where's the fun in that? Besides, they give you a loaf in a perfectly useless cylindrical shape. I think you might be able to do yeast breads without too much modification. Use less yeast to begin with (i.e., 1 packet where it calls for 2). And watch the dough carefully; when it's "doubled in bulk", punch it down and proceed to the next step, no matter what the recipe says about rising time. Maybe lowering the oven temp. 25 degrees or so would also be a good idea (to lessen the amount of "oven spring", the sudden expansion that happens when the heat first hits the dough)... then you'd have to bake it a little longer. If you try it, let me know how it turns out. GTP>I have a friend who is in his nineties. Until his horse died, he put in h >fields (has a truck farm) with a horse and plow, harvested it by himself >and delivered his veggies to most of the good restaurants in town. He >smokes hand rolled cigarettes, eats pork jowl (kinda like bacon, but with >more fat) for every meal, drinks a six pack a day and finishes off a fifth >of whiskey every weekend. I just recently heard that a certain level of alcohol consumption actually *prolongs* your life. All these people who live to be 90 or 100 seem to have a drink now and again. (Unfortunately, it's too early in the day to go pour myself a quick one...) (that was a joke; I do drink, maybe 1 or 2 times a week, but it certainly isn't an obsession with me...) GTP>Oh, that sounds like the fabric I got for Wild Hunter's and my initiation >robes. Only mine is teal and his is maroon. I actually cleared off my >sewing table the other day and finished my hps skirt. I also have several >orders in the offing for wedding dresses and capes. I make a mean cape. >People drool over the hunter green cotton chamois one I made for >Dragonfest last year. I'm thinking about going to the casinos and see if >I can get a job making turn-of-the-century barmaids clothes. I LOVE to >sew. I've made one wedding dress...it was just a simple unbleached muslin Victorian-style (high collar, princess-style, floor length) with a crocheted-type lace yoke. I'd like to make a cape, but that much wool is beyond my budget. Besides, I wouldn't have too many places to wear it; I can't drive while wearing a flowing cape! GTP>... 3O minutes of begging doesn't qualify as foreplay. No, but it can be amusing, if you like watching men humiliate themselves... SLMR 2.0 Cabbage that wilt shall be the cole of the slaw... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Gregh 27 Apr 94 12:43:08 Subject: Slmr UpdReq GR>Only take it if you *really* want to carry the monkey. I never realised ho > much sheer *work* those menus I've been navigating for months represent. > the other hand, if you suspect your son may set up a BBS make sure you > eavesdrop on whoever he asks for help; it'll help project that misleading > glaze of self confidence when you face the task yourself. Well, he's probably going to ask me to ask someone for help...and the most knowledgeable person I know is, of course.... my all-wise, all-knowing, Gods-inspired, entirely estimable and worthy sysop, Tal Meta. SLMR 2.0 "The ewe's pregnant again," the boy said sheepishly. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Jason Early 28 Apr 94 10:41:10 Subject: LYCANTHROPY UpdReq >"Off through the new day's mist I run" >"Off through the new day's mist I have come" >"I hunt" >"Therefore I am" >"Harvest the land" >"Taking of the fallen lamb!" >If you want the rest, call this BBS! I put the whole thing on poetry, as we >as Danzig's Killer Wolf song from Lucifuge II! "Shapeshift...nose to the wind; Shapeshift...feeling I've been; Move swift...all senses keen, Earth's gift...back to the meaning - back to the meaning Of wolf... and man..." (Although I'm not a werewolf myself...what happened to "wolf and woman?") I'm not familiar with the Danzig song...I'll have to check it out. >Well, I'm finding out I know less than I thought, like reading a comic book >learn to fly a boeng! However, I have read and re-read the part about "wolf >energies", and it only sounds correct. The way I see it, if an animal totem or spirit calls to you that strongly, so strongly that you feel you must in some way *be* that animal, it's more than just "wolf energies"; it's Wolf, him/herself, claiming your soul for his/her own. Not "a" wolf, or "the" wolf, or "wolf energies"; rather, it is "Wolf", the spiritual archetype of ALL "wolf-ness". JE>Well, thanks, I guess I'll try it, why not? I suggested a number of things...which one(s) did you intend to try? JE>al>Please don't take offense at the tagline! >al> SLMR 2.0 Never moon a werewolf! >Love it! ;-) aaaoohwwOOOOOOooooooo! SLMR 2.0 Who's the lifeguard in the gene pool? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Lt. Commander Zargon Area: Mundane To: Jason Early 27 Apr 94 04:36:38 Subject: Re: LYCANTHROPY UpdReq Mystics from on high have received clear images of Jason Early writing to Lt. Commander Zargon: JE> Everything and anything!! To be more specific, a good start would JE> be signs of lycanthropy in a person, also possibly how one JE> becomes one... maybe... JE> Well... since you seem to be serious... I will try to help you as much as I can. First of all, it's not like you see in the movies... Whereas you may become preditory at times and even seem more animalistic in appearance, your bone structure does not change, your hair does not magically grow out and back in, and your teeth and nails do not magically grow longer and sharper. It most definately IS in greater effect under the full moon, but that is not a necessary factor. Usually, the condition is hereditary, although there are other ways of becoming infected. Some early signs of Lycanthropy could be incessant hunger (usually for very rare meats), an increasingly bad temper, a growing feeling of disassociation with the human race. My wife tells me those are the same signs as PMS... :-) JE> The reason I am so interested in this subject is because I feel JE> as though I may be becoming one myself... hard to explain, when I JE> am sitting by a creek around here (Wolf Creek, aptly named) at JE> night, I can feel myself as a wolf better than I can as a JE> human...?! JE> JE> --Alpha Wolf JE> Please don't take this wrong, but you may be letting yourself be influenced by the wilderness, the name of the creek (which IS pretty obvious), and maybe by a secret need to escape... Lord knows I have quite often wished that I was a vampire, and at one time even believed that I may be one for almost the same reasons. I have never actually seen a werewolf, so I cannot personally attest to their actuallt existing, but I have seen many things which are not easily explained. My advice to you is that if you continue to feel that you are becoming a werewolf, look for help anywhere you can find it... and I will try to be here for you, also. Lt. Commander Zargon 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Kat 29 Apr 94 10:42:32 Subject: Re: RE. KITCHEN WITCH UpdReq KA> Take it from someone who knows the only thing that you need to worry >about in yeast bread baking is that your yeast is still active. Be sure th >you don't buy outdated yeast, and use it before the date expires. The best >way to judge the temperature of the water is to stick your clean finger in >it. It should be just a bit warmer than lukewarm. Not even enough to stea >unless it's very cold in the house. Put the yeast into the water, and let >sit till it is like paste. Stir it with a scraper, and be sure that it's w >mixed. You can tell how active yeast is before you use it by dropping a few >grains of sugar into it. If the sugar foams you're in luck. > Bright Blessings > Kat >p.s. Don't let the bread intimidate you. It's just bread. If you goof you >can start again. The first kneeding should be rough, the second, after >rising, gentle and after the second rising should be limited to only as muc >as you need to divide the dough and put it into pans. I learned that the water for the yeast should test out about the same temperature as a baby's bathwater, if that's an easier sensory cue for some. It's really hard to screw up a basic yeast bread, other than by killing the yeast (water too hot, water too cold, too much sugar, too much salt, yeast too old); fancy breads with a lot of butter, eggs, or sugar in them are less reliable. And my *charming* teenage son (who is actually a pretty damn good cook in most other things) seems to have a psychic ability to kill yeast. Either that, or he's got something weird in his skin oils/perspiration that kills the yeast. If he handles dough, it won't rise! When he was little, my mother once tried to make rolls with him (remember, *she* taught ME to cook!). The panful she made was OK, but the ones he shaped just lay there like rocks. Have you ever run across anything like that before? SLMR 2.0 The 4 food groups: salt, sugar, cholesterol, caffeine. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Kat 29 Apr 94 10:42:30 Subject: Re: Kitchen Witch UpdReq KA> Sure and don't forget that coisants are high class too. (Grin.) Yes, but croissants are a yeast bread, and I don't know how well they'd work at altitude (I'm trying to figure out whether it's easier to adjust yeast breads or quick breads.) Also, they take a *LONG* time to make, with all the folding and rolling and re-folding and re-rolling. And they're not even remotely Southern... SLMR 2.0 Cabbage that wilt shall be the cole of the slaw... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: Mundane To: Matthew Trevor 29 Apr 94 03:44:54 Subject: Re: Kurt Cobain & Resh UpdReq -=> Matthew Trevor sent a message to Kayla Block on 25 Apr 94 14:49:00 <=- -=> Re: Re: Kurt Cobain & Resh <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. MT> Equally as depressing is the news that Dennis Potter, writer of some MT> fantastic TV mini-series (_The Singing Detective_, _Pennies From MT> Heaven_) has less than three months to live due to terminal cancer. Kind of ironic, in light of the story line of Singing Detecive... here's hoping he writes himself out of this situation! Love is the law, love under will. - Christeos Pir ... ye shall be with Me in the Abodes that are beyond Decay. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Lewis Stead Area: Mundane To: John Machate 30 Apr 94 09:22:28 Subject: RE: HAIL TWITS! UpdReq * Original Area: Magicknet * Original From: Lewis Stead (93:9800/0) * Original To : John Machate (93:9810/11) JM> This is completely off-topic and I apologize: JM> All hail the Twits: JM> Grendel JM> John Machate JM> Angus Og JM> Lew Stead (I think) JM> Paul Seymoure JM> What a joyous group we are... JM> Hail TWITS. I don't know about twits. That looks like a list of many of the SUSSes tho. Wassail -- Lew (lstead@access.digex.net) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: John Machate Area: Mundane To: Lewis Stead 30 Apr 94 09:22:48 Subject: RE: HAIL TWITS! UpdReq JM> Hail TWITS. LS> I don't know about twits. That looks like a list of LS> many of the SUSSes tho. Really? I never noticed that. Need to get Dan twitted by Gwenny somehow. LS> Wassail -- Lew (lstead@access.digex.net) B*B 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Count Zero Area: Mundane To: Jc-qwk 30 Apr 94 21:48:00 Subject: Drop UpdReq 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Gwenny The Pooh Area: Mundane To: Kat 28 Apr 94 06:21:00 Subject: greenhouse UpdReq While bumping down stairs, Gwenny the Pooh heard Kat say: Ka> My guess is that if mankind is replaced it will be by the ant. Ka> I mean anyone ever tried to get rid of fire ants? The darned things Ka> mutate year after year so that what kills them one year they eat with Ka> relish the next. Or maybe the flea. Though is mammals were all Ka> destroyed the flea would die too. Hmmm..... Hmmm...you might just be right. Wasn't it ants the guy used in his experiment in _City_ by Clifford Simak? There was a show about fire ants on the Discovery Channel the other night, but we tuned in at the end and Wild Hunter had control of the remote....I have found that the best way to end channel surfing is to tape things. He's really good about leaving it alone when I want to save something. Last night we taped an interesting "Living Planet" and something about airplanes for my eldest's research project.... Gwenny ... May the sun smile upon you and the moon send you silver 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Gwenny The Pooh Area: Mundane To: Lazarus Long 30 Apr 94 07:38:00 Subject: My Address UpdReq While bumping down stairs, Gwenny the Pooh heard Lazarus Long say: LL> Somebody has been selling my address to lots of junky fake-o occult LL> groups and stuff! I don't know who it is. Lots of people have LL> it....but the two that I can think of off the top of my head are the LL> Foundation for Shamanic Studies (and they don't seem like the type) LL> and Llewellyn (I got their magazine for a year or two). LL> Is there any way to stop this? I'm getting all of these stupid LL> pamphlets "Send $65 to Dr. Bob and We'll Make you Psychic!" and LL> whatnot. I'd be more likely to say Llewellyn, but it might be neither. We just started getting, but we don't belong to any groups that might be able to sell our address. We decided it's either Omni magazine or Museum Replicas. Gwenny ... What's Furry and works at the Stock Market? The Wall Street Gerbil! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Gwenny The Pooh Area: Mundane To: Albertus Magnus 29 Apr 94 20:10:00 Subject: greenhouse UpdReq While bumping down stairs, Gwenny the Pooh heard Albertus Magnus say: AM> Well, we know something, we simply don't know as much as we'd like to AM> think we do. What did Socrates say....the only thing I know for certain is that I don't know everything... GTP> Oops, busted......I need a REASON to snuggle ? AM> Well, you're all the way over THERE, and I'm all the way over HERE, AM> so as much as I'd consider offering, it just doesn't seem to be in AM> the cards at the moment. For some reason this reminded me of an article in a Playboy years and years ago about Zen sex....ah, well, we'll hafta settle for a cyber hug. <> AM> Ah hell, cockroaches are kinda cute, I think. I just don't want them AM> in MY house. Hmmmm, I say that about some xtians.... GTP> Hey, I heard a rumor that Carlin got born again....know anything about GTP> that? AM> I hope this is some sort of hoax. Heck, I don't know....that's why I was asking. Does anyone out there is cyberland know?? Gwenny ... MacIntosh: Computer With Training Wheels You Can't Remove 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Lazarus Long 30 Apr 94 13:09:54 Subject: My Address UpdReq LL>Somebody has been selling my address to lots of junky fake-o occult groups >stuff! I don't know who it is. Lots of people have it....but the two that >can think of off the top of my head are the Foundation for Shamanic Studies >(and they don't seem like the type) and Llewellyn (I got their magazine for >year or two). LL>Is there any way to stop this? I'm getting all of these stupid pamphlets >"Send $65 to Dr. Bob and We'll Make you Psychic!" and whatnot. I'd be willing to bet it's Llewellyn. They publish an awful lot of useful and authentic material on Wicca, magick, etc., but they also publish a lot of appalling garbage; they cover the entire "occult" spectrum. And I wouldn't be surprised if they sell their mailing list to anyone else in the field of "the occult", including the hucksters and hustlers as well as the outright nutcases. I'm not sure exactly how you go about it, and I think there are forms you have to fill out or something, but there IS a way to get your name taken off mailing lists; you might try calling the Post Office and asking. And write to Llewellyn and tell them to keep your name off the list they sell; sound aggrieved, and threaten to stop buying their publications. SLMR 2.0 Heinlein is dead. -- The Galactic Overlord 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kat Area: Mundane To: Captain Rock 28 Apr 94 15:16:38 Subject: Re: greenhouse UpdReq The only reason why Ortho kills the fire ants just fine is that they have to keep changing the formula every year. We used to have this problem in the field where we kept the horses in Alabama. The ants would move in, take over, and we'd spend dollars dollars fighting them. Horses suffere mega bucks worth of medical problems every year because of the fire ants. On year we used what was left of the previous year's formula on several hills but the ants didn't seem phased by them at all. In fact they just kept on spreading. We had to buy some new stuff to kill the ants. The exterminator said it was because they mutate so fast. Same with fleas and roaches. You have to keep changing the formula because they mutate. Bright Blessings Kat 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kat Area: Mundane To: LIANA 28 Apr 94 15:29:24 Subject: Re: RE. KITCHEN WITCH UpdReq Try recipes that come from prior to world war I! I've got them cluttering up the office here, preparing to put them on disc, and having alot of trouble with ingredients. I mean who can go to the store now adays and buy a side of venison?! Anyone seen squirrel lately? How about opossom? Or even rabbit?! Anyone seen sweet breads lately? I've never even seen them, much less had them, though my mother said that they were delicious. Still some of the recipes are timeless. Like making your own yeast out of potato peelings. You soak them in water to cover, and the foam that rises to the top is the yeast. You have to keep it going by adding new peels all the time, but that's not so hard. Still the yeast makes an excellent sour dough. Or like the cookie recipe. Or my great grandmother's Bridal bread recipe. Which I seem to have misplaced. I'll have to see if my sister has it. Bright Blessings Kat 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kat Area: Mundane To: Gwenny The Pooh 28 Apr 94 15:22:56 Subject: Re: greenhouse UpdReq I just see it now. Acres and acres of greenhouses covering fields of wheat, corn, soybean and beets. The old midwestern breadbasket you know. (Grin.) Actually it probably won't affect us much down here either, heat wise. This past winter was so mild that we almost didn't know we had it. Only a very few cold days. Bright Blessings Kat 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718