From: Kayla Block Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 6 Feb 94 01:10:48 Subject: Drug Testing UpdReq 93 phanerothyme, KB>(i'm going to keep bugging you for that 'risk of posting' thing!) ;> P> I've got a really, REALLY full schedule till Feb 15, P> shouldn't even be getting on these echos at all, but I'm is it the same as the thing that deep black recently posted? P> [Personal note, delete before you post this: Kayla might P> run scared when she reads the "Risk of Posting" piece, P> may elect to not P> particiapte anymore - you'll lose a valuable source. P> Stall as long as possible, hope she forgets about it, P> and if all else fails, tell her the disk won't read] LOL, well---i don't scare too easily. besides, if it is the thing that deep black posted, it's too late. P> I was on it for TWO hours. Just as you say, it was OK. P> Kind of felt disassociated, voices seemed distant, no P> really neat effects. yeah, i think it's a bit over-rated, really. still, i wish that i could find a dentist that would give it to me, because of the novacaine problem that i mentioned to you before. P> Found that the reason they gave it on so flimsy an P> excuse was the assistant had to administer a total of 5 P> hours of nitrous under a doctor's supe before she could that was convenient. TTYL 93, --kayla 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kayla Block Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 6 Feb 94 01:15:16 Subject: 5-MEO-DMT UpdReq >In the "Magic Plants" echo, Deep Black maintains 5-MEO-DMT is absolutely LL> I don't get that echo unfortunatly. How can I get in touch with LL> Aldrich Chemicals? and how is Deep Black ingested? What's it LL> made of? ROTFL! how is deep black ingested!!! that's a good one. well, deep black, how would _you_ respond to this inquiry? };-] 93, --kayla 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kayla Block Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 6 Feb 94 01:17:12 Subject: Finally! UpdReq 93 phanerothyme, KB>BTW, i met you the weekend of the quake, right? do you have netmail KB>access? P> What a great pick-up line! Think it'd work for here in Oklahoma? :) hehe, i dunno, you could try it! P> Seriously, are you involved in a serious relationship? believe it or not, that's a hard question for me to figure out how to answer. for the last year, i've been involved with someone who actually lives in new zealand. he has spent some time here, and i went there for a few months. however, i have not seen him for 7-8 months. though i may be heading back down there in march. so, i suppose it is serious, but 'uncommitted' due to the distance involved. it's a tricky and rather difficult situation. don't know how it will all end up. TTYL 93, ---kayla 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kayla Block Area: Magical Plants To: All 6 Feb 94 01:26:52 Subject: Leaving Town UpdReq 93 all, in the last 2 weeks, i've had a major overload of stress. since the quake, i've had a bunch of highly negative things going on, culminating in the death of a close friend of mine yesterday, after a protracted illness. anyway, the purpose of my note, is to let people know that i haven't responded to your posts, it's because there has been alot going on. also, i will be leaving town on monday, and will be gone for at least a week. (i just need to get out of town for a little R & R.) so, if i don't answer your mail, that would be the reason why. see you all in a week or so. 93, ---kayla 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 5 Feb 94 09:07:00 Subject: Re: 5-MEO-DMT UpdReq Ph> However, he currently reports Aldritch now only sells 5-MEO-DMT to Ph> legitimate sources, e.g. real labs. He's still looking for a source Aldritch doesn't sell it, but its sister company Sigma does. Since it is not on the watched list, they will sell it to any ligitimate corporation. I don't believe you need a lab license. I am going to try and order it through my corporation and will let you know what happens. Either I can then order a larger amount or advise what you need to do to look legit so you may directly order it. Aldritch DOES sell harmine and harmaline, but since that is so easily extracted from Syrian Rue, its hardly worth the cost or trouble (P. harmala is cheaper than buying the pure alkaloid retail.) Alfa will sell anything to anyone, though their catalog is limited relative to the more exotics that the other two carry in the way of complex organtics. Catalogs are free, but don't swamp them with orders just so you can have one. Be cool, folks. Lets only get one if we intend on USING it, ok? Alfa Chemical c/o Johnson Matthey PO 8247 Ward Hill, MA. 01835-9953 1-800-343-0660 Aldritch 1001 W. Saint Paul Avenue Milwaukee, WI. 53233 1-800-558-9160 I'll post Sigma's as soon as I can and keep you informed. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 5 Feb 94 09:13:00 Subject: Re: Netmail UpdReq Ph> You ain't shit'n. My first effort with Pure Internet was on a Ph> Unix-command based system; I had no exposure to Unix, no manual, no Ph> one to help me (virtually - I did send some e-mails for help). It Ph> was tough - and I'm a Clone/DOS guru. My GOD! I have a fairly good grasp of Unix Shell, but I wouldn't attempt to fuck with Internet through a strictly Unix-command based system (using UUCP, I guess?) My hats off to you, bro! Ph> "This is your brain on drugs" activity. Those commercials always gave me the munchies! Made me want to head out to Dennys at four AM to get a Grand-Slam breakfast! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 5 Feb 94 09:16:00 Subject: Re: Dangers of posting UpdReq Ph> BTW, do you have any reluctance to post hte kind of things we've been Ph> posting. Just curious. No, because I'm not doing anything illegal. Others close to me MIGHT be as I've taught them certain things....but that's another story. Last time I checked, our info only gets our "names" on a list, but what else is new? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 5 Feb 94 10:13:00 Subject: Re: Finally! UpdReq Ph> Seriously, are you involved in a serious relationship? Hey! That's MY question! }:D 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 5 Feb 94 10:16:00 Subject: MS UpdReq Ph> At least I'm still seeing and walking; lots of MS victims aren't. Ph> Should I ever get that bad, I want to rat-hole away 1000 hits of LSD Ph> (if I could find it, I'd do it now - hopefully DB will find us a Ph> 5-MEO-DMT source). I'd be blind and crippled, but I'd still have a Ph> meaningful life taking a trip every 3 days. I'm sorry to hear....but I *LOVE* your take on the way to "escape" the prison of your flesh! I will do my best! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Herbs 5 Feb 94 10:22:00 Subject: Re: question Shrooms?? UpdReq He> I know you can legally buy the sppores , but if you get He> aressted with mature shrooms is there a penalty?? Mature shrooms would land you in a world of hurt! No, P3 spores are completely legal to possess. Some states my not allow shippment into their jurisdiction. California is one of these. The absolute BEST kit with 14 page tech-briefs and loaded spore syringe is: Psy-Fanaticus 1202 E. Pike #783 Seattle, WA. 98122 The complete kit with tech briefs is 20$ and well worth every penny. Trust me; this is the BEST. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Deep Black 5 Feb 94 06:27:24 Subject: Re: New JLF Products UpdReq DB>Sent me Internet mail as I've lost your node #. Then I can simply DB>reply. Can't do Bro - it'd blow my cover; no alias allowed on my Inet source. Ph> He's got lots of stuff in here I've never heard of - guess I'd Ph>better Ph> order the "Pharmacotheon" (sp?) book. DB >The _Pharmacotheon_ does not list the P3 kit/papers. It was some ethnobotanicals that threw me - and also threw an expert friend. DB>That is Pyslo-Fanaticus DB>1202 E. Pike #783 DB>Seattle. Wa. DB>98122. My friend got his spore syringe, but didn't order the tech papers, wants to know what to do with it that differs from using a spore print. DB>Foolproff. Wish I had a gram of P3 for every time I've heard that! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Deep Black 5 Feb 94 06:37:26 Subject: MDMA UpdReq Ph> Have you taken Ph> MDMA? What did it do to your Dark Flame nature? DB>Yes, probably 20 times. This was before it was a controlled drug. DB>I had some breakthrough experiences with it. A lot of healing, both DB>with DB>my self an my partner. I has enabled victims of sexual abuse to Yes, of course, it does that for nearly everybody. but what I want to know is how did it make you view your Black Flame? DB>IIt is truly a shame that those in power have seen fit to impede what DB>may be a quantum leap in therapy, in much the same way (but You already know my low opinion of the Guv'ment (totally agree with your epigram, "It's not a good idea. it's just the law"). Shrinks have money and political power, wouldn't benefit shrinks or Pols to have a $2 capsule of legal MDMA around; that would cut out a hell of a lot of those $100, 50 minute hours they bill. Shrinks with less money would be forced to cut their campaign contributions. Ph> Why don't you and I meet halfway between OKC and Tulsa and spend a Ph> day together? DB>Sounds good. So much more can be exchanged in a couple of hours of DB>conversation. Want very much to meet you! [Personal note, delete before uploading msg: Deep Black investigation coming to a close, expect to 'cuff him within 30 days - stupid SOB didn't believe the "Risk of Posting" msg] :) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Deep Black 5 Feb 94 06:43:36 Subject: 5-MEO-DMT/JLF UpdReq Ph> If this stuff is legal, why don't head shops sell it? I suggested Ph>to Ph> Mark of JLF that he sell it; he's willing, and since he does JLF as DB>I know Mark well! We were discussing this very thing. Then he probably told you my real name. Ask him for my phone#, tell him I ok'd it. That way I don't risk getting crank calls from posting it to boards all over the world. DB>I KEEP YOU POSTED! Tell Mark not to wait till the next catalog to let me know when it's for sale - I'll order immediately!!! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718