From: Exidor. Area: Magical Plants To: All 1 Feb 94 00:06:06 Subject: Re: Yage UpdReq Where can one obtain yage. I know it is indiginous to S. America and there are no laws pertaining to it in our country. So where can I get seeds! x. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: David Arnold Area: Magical Plants To: Deep Black 31 Jan 94 18:45:04 Subject: Toad Bust/Ignorance display UpdReq > DA> And are they feeding them right? Maybe we should call the ASPCA... > Well, since they are being held by insects, it shouldn't be too much of a > problem! hehheh };^> 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: David Arnold Area: Magical Plants To: Deep Black 31 Jan 94 19:03:04 Subject: New hope from plant allies! UpdReq Re ibogaine: > They are testing (formally) on humans. Since it was a Secheule 1, it couldn't > be done in the open, but there were renegades in the medical field who > bravely didn't allow that to stop them. It has only proven effective for > heroin and to a lesser degree, cocaine. None of the them had been diagnosed > with mental problems. It worked with rats as well, and this would lend > further credibility to it acting on a somatic and not psychological path. well somebody is listening to Lotsof! (he holds the patents for the anti-addiction processes for heroin and cocaine and amphetamines.) we shall see what they come up with as far as a physical cure. Re cannabis: > It is the single BEST drug to treat glaucoma. It helps with many of the > symptoms of MS and MD. It has allowed many of those afflicited with HIV to > make dramatic weight gains and thus improve their general overall health. > And of course, it is a powerful anitemetic for those undergoing chemo. oh right i forgot about glaucoma. what is ms and md? multiple sclerosis and ? the "HIV" thing is interesting. i for one, don't believe HIV causes any kind of disease at all, and AIDS is very likely a myth. i'm not going into that here cause it's off topic (i've expounded on it elsewhere), but in that case the weight loss would have a different cause. would be nice to figure out what exactly is that cause, so we can say for sure that cannabis reverses that symptom and why. > Yes, I mean kudzu (typo.) It has been used for centuries by traditional > Chinese medicine as a treatment for alcoholism. This is what prompted > American M.D.s in research to begin clinical double-blind studies with > rats. It worked so well that clinical trials with humans have begun. > So far, the active compound(s) have not been isolated. Work is being > done in this area, of course. BTW, it is a non-native aquatic "pest weed" > that has almost over run certain areas of the everglades (among others.) it's a vine that chokes everything in its path, isn't it? there's a mild plague with scotch broom here in Oregon, which was imported from Europe. runs rampant in any cleared space and is really tough. good to make brooms out of, but it's not THAT dirty around here . i can't wait to find out what's in kudzu. let us know if you hear about it. later, david 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: David Arnold Area: Magical Plants To: Kayla Block 31 Jan 94 20:05:06 Subject: Netmail UpdReq 93 Kayla, > uh...i don't think you would 'miss' ones like this one. i think i've > blocked out most of the actual experience of it. but, since the main > quake, i've found myself feeling irritable, depressed, anxious, and > generally stressed out. oooh :( i take it you didn't grow up with them then. by "missing them" i meant that it was a nostalgia of sorts. but maybe i just have a different sensitivity to it. i revel in the feeling of an earthquake. mother earth is communicating with me and trying to tell everybody what she thinks of these tiny human creatures that think they rule her. i am definitely in tune and yes, centered, when it comes to an earthquake. i can see how all the broken glass and dishevelment you've described would get you down. things visibly breaking (cracks and so on) do strange things to me. but i look on the earthquake experience as more important than me or my possessions. i also look at it scientifically, geologically, and that may help allay some of those feelings if you understand and examine more what the quake actually is. i know seismologists are acting perplexed, but they always are when it comes to quakes. from what i've heard, this fault shifting went up and down rather than sideways, so i guess it was more a buckling than shifting. but being more attuned to it and taking it for what it is on a spiritual plane, might help with the next time. (remember, there will always be these things in California, no sense pretending not.) take care, you're ok (and so is the earth), david 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718