From:    Rakshasa                               Area: Magical Plants
To:      Jonathan Corwin5                       14 Aug 93 12:26:00
Subject: Re: HAWIIAN WOOD ROSE                  UpdReq 

 >    It is indeed amine, not diethylamide (found only, to my 
 > knowledge, in laboratories)...  the reason you may have gotten sick 
 > might be due to the fact that it is a fairly common practice among 
 > growers to pre-treat the seeds with insecticides and minor poisons, 
 > especially in the case of woodrose and morning glories--the 
 > visionary practices they are used for are well-known and frowned 
 > upon within enforcement circles.
I've heard that, and indeed that could have been the case.  All I know is that 
the effects weren't worth the hassle.  At best I'd call woodrose seeds mildly 
psychedelic; for my money I'd rather do Kava Kava, which is more sedating but 
more pleasant and doesn't give me any bad side effects (although I've heard 
constant use of it can be hard on the liver).

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From:    Wesley Arnold                          Area: Magical Plants
To:      Gandalf                                15 Aug 93 15:56:56
Subject: Re: CACTUS PLANT USED IN RITUALS       UpdReq 

 G>     
 G>     Thanks for the info....How "exactly do you prepare them for the 
 G> "experience".  I understand their are a few different ways...
As you said, there are a few different ways....
You can peel it, excising all the spines, and eat like a cob of corn.  You 
would generally need to eat a piece about 6" to 8" long and 3" thick to 
achieve the desired effect.  However, if you can avoid this way, do so.  
While not as bitter and, frankly, nauseating as peyote, it is still VERY 
bitter and rather hard to stomach.  
You can just excise the spine groups, leaving the skin more or less intact, 
cut it into sections around 3/4" thick, and boil the whole thing in about 3-4 
quarts of water for several hours, reducing it to a rather thick, syrupy tea, 
which you can then consume, cutting the taste with honey.  
You can do the same as above, but not reducing it as far, add a little salt 
(to make the solution isotonic) and use it as an enema.
You can do the same as above, but through repeated boilings and then 
evaporations, create a dark tar-like substance, which you can then put into 
capsules and use that way (not a bad method, unless, like myself, you are not 
pill-tolerant)....
Make sure, though, that you get the proper species of Trichocereus...there are 
several (over ten, I believe), but only three have the mescaline and related 
alkaloid content....


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