From: The Wiz Area: MagickNet To: All 28 Oct 96 23:45:00 Subject: Greetings UpdReq Greetings and Merry Meet to all from LoreMaster BBS in Tulsa, Oklahoma! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ghost Area: MagickNet To: Khephera 28 Oct 96 22:41:04 Subject: ancient egypt &.... UpdReq .'. G>> no, I can't put any part of my higher on the chart or lower. I need G>> _every_ part to be complete. if you can do it - fine. > You don't seem to understand the use of Modles. Putting parts of you no, you do not understand what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say that I need every part - this means: I need my arm as well as my leg. and I am not able to say that one of it is more important or whatever than the other. the HGA would be nothing without that part which is me. like Nuit is nothing without Hadit. putting something 'higher' on the chart for me only could be a pragmatical thing - e.g. by alphabet or something like that, because there has to be an order in which the /parts/ can be written down. but this doesn't imply a judging. > And the Mystical journey is also a cutting up of yourself, and one that's I'm used to solve&coagulate. (I've been born in the right hour =). > good for you. (I may also point out that you don't have to cut yourself, > as we have more advanced technology now). :) that's good. remembering the Osiris myth.... }=-) -+* 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ghost Area: MagickNet To: Khephera 28 Oct 96 22:41:12 Subject: ancient egypt &.... UpdReq .'. G>> but why do they lose the 'real world? they were part of it for a long > No, they weren't. [....] (Hear Clintion saying, "I FEEL your pain!"). > Bull. He doesn't feel our pain- he's never come even close... not being american I don't know much about american politicians or your pain. but I think that 'your pain' is not the same within everybody.... I don't know what Clinton did before he became president but Reagan was an actor and I assume he was not only a bad actor but even totally normal except for that he became president later on. so he should have experienced being a waiter as well as any ordinary actor in the world [enough of this stereotype! =)] [gods] > Ah! Well, I honestly see Them in all of the above. Although I don't feel fine. now I can get a better impression what you mean when we are writing about gods! -+* 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ghost Area: MagickNet To: * 28 Oct 96 22:41:20 Subject: charts and tarot UpdReq .'. has anybody tryed to use the birth chart for doing a spread thereby? -+* 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ghost Area: MagickNet To: Jade 28 Oct 96 22:40:30 Subject: decisions UpdReq .'. [influences] I won't argue with you about the chains made by education &c. =) > One final thought: In my readings about mystics and sages, much of what > they seem to be doing is to overcome and eliminate the enculturation that I don't want to say 'that's what magick is all about' but I think it to be a great part within the magickal unfolding. it takes time and saying goodbye to many attitudes &c. > seperates themselves from their true selves, the Divine, etc. another way to look at these 'tales' [you may take the word more or less literally] is by interpreting it in manners of individuation (read for example C.G. Jung for that; he is great: Jung says that mystical events can't be expressed by psychological means totally). I'm working on this at the moment. what I meant be writing 'one has to decide' was more into the Leary direction: having a very close look at the world views, judging the ways &c towards the aim to accomplish and then doing something like reprogramming: filling things with meaning, learning the 'system', making it ones own world, settling down there. what do you think about the 'gifts' or 'curses' own gets with the birth (chart) in relation to the 'true will'? [btw - have you read or eventuelly done {doing =)} the 'book of the archer' by josh norton?] -+* 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718