From: Neural Shaman Area: MagickNet To: Rainlake 3 Nov 94 10:54:04 Subject: Mistaken echo, feeling . UpdReq : From: Rainlake Subj: Re: Socialistic? Not! -> I am wondering what exactly are the topic parameters for th -> echo? It would appear from the messages that anything goes (the only -> limit is that participants must be males). Ra> So who you callin' a male, huh? Me 'n' Rose Dawn iz here...how much Ra> more woman do you need?? :) 8 )> (bikini smiley) Ra> -!- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 11-07-94 Ra> ! Origin: PODS - Immortal Coil BBS (502)636-5595 (93:9187/7) Excuse me (sheepish ), but for some reason I thought I was posting this in the "God" Echo which is male only. I have no idea how I could have made such a stupid mistake (feeling both surprised, confused and amused), though I did sort of remeber at the time thinking (giving myself credit on that, ), I saw one of the little people lurking around so ... along the path, mortified and bemused ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 X 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Tah-Holk `Na-Ha Area: MagickNet To: All 5 Nov 94 11:50:24 Subject: Going to NY? UpdReq I wish to travel from Colorado Springs, CO (or within 100 miles) to Rochester, NY (or within 100 miles) between now and Dec. 21. I will pay for one half of the gas and share the driving. Thanx ... (Blink)(Blink) Simulated ANSI Graphics (Blink)(Blink) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Josh Norton Area: MagickNet To: Rab 4 Nov 94 13:57:00 Subject: Tolkien UpdReq -=> Quoting Josh Norton to Joseph Max <=- JN> We had a rather heated discussion of the value of Tolkein workings JN> earlier this year. R> Greetings, Josh; It is interesting to hear that some people in N. America R> have recently been doing workings with Tolkien "characters". Can you tell R> me (roughly) where these workings have been done -- e.g. California, R> Oregon, East Coast? -- or which characters have been invoked, other than R> Bombadil? I confess to ignorance; all I've heard about it, I've seen here on Magicknet. Anyone else have an answer for Rab? R> Mithrandir (Gandalf), of course, comes across very much in the mold of R> a Merlin or Dee -- Wise Old Druid -- although with more depth, and Galadriel R> very much a nature goddess, but the Valar seem uniquely sublime & potent. R> The consensus is that Tolkien seems to have tuned into an ancient and R> forgotten, but distinct and still viable pantheon. R> Hmmm. I can't recall how much Tolkein drew on previous mythologies -- it's been 20 years since I took a course on his stuff. But I'm not certain that it matters, anyway. My contention in the original discussion was that all myths and stories (whether religious in origin or not) are reflections of parts of human nature. And human nature, according to tradition, is a reflection of the universe's nature. Therefor any fictional character can serve as a means to contacting the powers it reflects. JN> I really don't see that the power associated with a god-form -- or any JN> other symbol, for that matter -- has much at all to do with the amount JN> of worship it has had. R> Perhaps not so much the "amount" as the "quality"? Well, I did pretty well with Bugs Bunny. More recently with Kimball and Clarissa Kinnison (characters in a series of pulp-era science fiction novels). What quality of worship, if any, do they have? I confess that there's some instances in which I definitely hope the "accumulated power" theory isn't correct. Don't think I'd care to have a huge mass of Huitzilopoctli's power floating around, for instance. Things could get nasty. ... Five tons of wax! ___ X SPEED 1.30 [NR] X 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718