From:    William Mclaughlin                     Area: MagickNet
To:      Josh Norton                            16 Aug 92 00:28:04
Subject: Gerald Schueler                        UpdReq 

JN>A quick reading by an unthinking or uneducated person would give the
JN>impression that there was something meaningful there; but if you take
JN>the time to figure out what he is saying, you will find that most of it
JN>sounds good but means nothing. Reference to reliable sources in the
JN>areas of physics he talks about will show that the remainder is simply
JN>wrong. In the entire book I found exactly two ideas that both meant
JN>something and were not contradicted by the facts. I attribute these to
JN>the fact that even a stopped clock is right twice a day (unless it's
JN>digital <G>).
JN>So (IMO) there is no reason to treat Schueler's work with anything other
JN>than contempt. The field of Enochian magick would have been better off
JN>had he never started his little carnival show.
Josh:
     Thanks for the reply. I've got to admit that I liked the first two
books, but since I haven't done any work with Enochian energies, I was only
guessing. Can you recommend some good stuff on the subject?
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From:    Airmid                                 Area: MagickNet
To:      Erin                                   15 Aug 92 11:27:00
Subject: Re: Thirteen                           UpdReq 

ER>     I DID, however, read that the Celts considered both sun and moon
ER>feminine in a source I considered reliable not too long ago.  Now of course,
ER>I'm going to have to track it down.  More library work.  Will get back to yo
ER>on this one.  And maybe to Airmid as well.  I don't like giving my students
ER>the wrong info.
I'd be really interested to get and read your source on this.  The
Silver Bough by F. Marian McNeill implies that, in Scotland at least,
the moon was masculine and that there was probably a moon God.  He was
assimilated into a Saint (as is usual with that kind of thing).  If
you'd like, I can look up the cite for you.
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From:    Airmid                                 Area: MagickNet
To:      Erin                                   15 Aug 92 12:00:00
Subject: Sun And Moon Feminine                  UpdReq 

ER>     Well, I finally did get what I was looking for looked up. (Ungrammatica
ER>sentence, that last.)  It was in one of the Farrars' books that I originally
ER>read that both sun and moon were considered feminine to the Celts.
Having met Janet and Stewart during their trip here to the states (they
came to my house for a visit briefly, and I was involved with the group
that sponsored their Seattle tour) I can state for a fact that Janet
only pretends to have some Irish.  She told my Irish teacher's teacher
(on the east coast) that she had no Irish at all.  She presented herself
out here as being some kind of expert on Irish language.  Now, the fact
that my teacher's teacher has been winning national and international
awards for her Gaelic may have had something to do with her admission
back east....
ER>it, at least in Irish.  Now, I'm aware that there are five other extant
ER>Celtic languages.  Tho some are rapidly becoming not so extant.  But at leas
ER>in Irish, both sun, "grian," (from which I'll bet they got Igraine's name)
ER>and moon, either "gealach," or "re" (the e should have an accent over it, bu
ER>I can't make the computer do it here), are both feminine.
ER>     So, I wonder what Airmid is thinking of.  Maybe it's different in the
ER>other Celtic languages she(?) has studied.  Or maybe language gender is
ER>different from concept gender.
I think we're dealing with concept gender here rather than linguistic
gender.
ER>  Don't know.  I don't get the Celtic echo yet
ER>tho my sysop says he will be installing it momentarily (Oh, Blackwolf. . .
I'm looking forward to seeing you on the Celtic echo.  This has been a
fascinating thread, and I'm moving the posts from it into the Celtic
echo for the interest and edification of the folks there.  Hope to see
you soon (virtually speaking)  :)
               Airmid - moderator of the Celtic echo
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