From: Farrell McGovern Area: MagickNet To: Taliesin 25 Jun 92 00:37:04 Subject: Fuck You? You S... UpdReq In a lo-rez cyberspace object, Taliesin @93:9040/2 texuralized the following thoughts onto the reality grid of my fav VR co-ordinates: T> Sorry for cutting in but I can only agree with you...The so T> called "christians" will be the first to attack you , call you T> names and want to go to fists.....Worse yet they want to "save" T> you....From what I ask!! From their self-righteousness maybe???? T> Peace loving aren't they...I live in what I call the fundie belt T> (Okla.City) and we are knee deep in speaking in tongues fundies T> out here who have pulled the shroud over their heads so tight T> they can't even see the light ... Their light has become T> darkness!!!!! And try to speak to them in an intelligent and T> reserved manner and all they do is get twisted and start T> screaming and carrying on like wild men......Thanks for letting T> me get on my soap box....blessed be T> I have griped about this for a long time! It was one of the things that caused a friend of mine to be come a Pagan! Christianity is driving away some of their best people to Paganism because of stupidity! ttyl Farrell 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Hume Area: MagickNet To: Philip Cavanagh 21 Jun 92 16:43:40 Subject: Re: Magick Fonts UpdReq Phil - Actually, there are presently discussions under the Magick topic of NEWAGE on Enochian, the Golden Dawn, and a gentleman who is getting under my skin explaining how once Thelemites grow up they usually stop being Thelemites. Hmm - Josh, come to think of it, some of the phrasing seems familiar. Are you "Benjamin Rowe" in CI$? paul /post (oops) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Neuro Sonic Area: MagickNet To: All 24 Jun 92 21:16:20 Subject: The Pact (IOT) UpdReq Has anyone else taken a look at the PSYCHONOMICAN previews available for download? P. Carrol has really out done himself this time. Any Chaos enthusiasts care to comment? Love is the law, Love under will. Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted. A \|/ <-(O)-> /|\ V Neuro Sonic 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: John Gialuco Area: MagickNet To: William Mclaughlin 25 Jun 92 07:40:58 Subject: J.Z. KNIGHT UpdReq Hello Bill - As to J.Z. Knight we have gotten info from Daniel (Great WHite Brotherhood who is the same brotherhood that Ramtha is connected to ) was that J. Z. was filtering Ramtha's guidance through her ego to the point that there was too much distortion. This can happen with individuals who channel, for various reasons. Keep in mind that we are given free will and that if one's intentions change to another probability line regardless of the one agreed to with an entity or a group entity, the free will is given precedence over an agreement with 'spirit'. What usually happens is that a realignment to the new probability line of experience ( reality) does not include the same entity if an entinty is even involved any longer. Knight's ego became comfortable with the new and more flexable energy i.e power that it found itself sharing with taht of Ramtha. It and the personality, Knight, then choose to develope it's/their own translation of the Ramtha material, thereby creating distortions out of Ramtha's guidance. Valadation to channeling is availabel from many sources, scientificall that is. It seems to me though that if a person has a preconcieved idea or certain fears are challanged by a possibility then a person will recoil away from that experience that he/she is partaking in. I have seen it many times and in most cases this judgement of fraud or fear response to channeling is exactly what that person's experience of the event is appropiate for that person's development at that time. Guidance is always - ALWAYS - working with everyone alive (be it angels, masters, guides etc.) and one's guides knows best what is best suited for a person at a strategic receptivity at any point in time, so what would seem to be a disbelief or skeptical reaction to something is in fact quite appropiate. You may not be able to make a horse drink water once you bring him to the water trough but when he gets thirsty enough he will remember that wooden trough. That may lead him to search for sustanace. The frauds in this field, and for that matter any field, are also needed to address the many beliefs of people. Some folks learn best to bring about change in themselves through being ripped off. I have found myself enen to become more responsible for myself or another after being triggered by a person or event (politics, Bush, Reagan, Vietnam, JFK) which was a lie or manipulation of some sort. I have been thrust into finding what ws true for me in order to believe that that world, my world, is receptive to my existence. Channeling is as real as real is. It is a communion of spirit and flesh, the same as the dream world is a marrage of dream and flesh, as real as the merging of woman with man, man with man and woman with woman. It's just what an individual or a society elects to experience and in what style one chooses to react to that experience. There is a newer need to keep this planet going in a healthful, sane and divine direction. Our technological, polotical, and philosophical systems aren't able to address the problems we have created in the last 50 years. Guides, frauds, psyschizophrinics, gods, angels, criminals are all involved in this process. We really are given the gift of the Gods - We create our own reality - Seth. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Anthra Andromda Area: MagickNet To: Morgana 24 Jun 92 06:54:00 Subject: Software Testers UpdReq > Ok, I'll bite....my machine's done it's share of testing for > good ol' Micro- > Soft, 'bout time it carried some Magickal weight.... > Let me know hows & wheres.... > Blessings > Morgana Just let me know where to send a copy (net/snail mail address). I'll have something in a few days that I can send (not complete, but useable/testable). Thanks, --Anthra-- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Anthra Andromda Area: MagickNet To: The Tigress 24 Jun 92 07:00:02 Subject: Software Testers UpdReq > If I can assist, just let me know. I have a strong > background in Qabalistic studies and I happen to be possibly the > only compu-idiot sysop around . Put it this > way...If it won't crash under my play... > tis safe for anyone to use. Great! Thanks. I'll have a flavor I can send in a few days. Since you identified yourself as a sysop I'll Netmail you a copy when its ready. The file will have a 'letter to testers' in it. Thanks, --Anthra-- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Anthra Andromda Area: MagickNet To: Karl Lembke 24 Jun 92 07:06:02 Subject: Software Testers UpdReq > I'm willing to offer myself as a guinea pig. Though, as someone > who > is fluent in PC, I won't be quite as stern a test as someone > like > my boss. :-) If you need my snail-mail address, it's > Or, I suppose I can manage to hook up to your board when the > rates are low. I'll snailmail you a copy...it's going to be kinda large (even in archive form), the development directory is over a meg. It'll be a few more days a'fore it will be ready. Thanks, --Anthra-- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Oberon Area: MagickNet To: Deke Motif Nihilson 24 Jun 92 19:15:00 Subject: Re: Re: Really!!?? UpdReq DMN>YES. It Helped me Hate Authority (who ate a pan of beets for 4-6 months of DMN>Labor on my part. Radicalizing??? YESS!!!!!) Isn't it fun? {gryn} Ride free and Blessed Be, Oberon * OLX 2.2 * "Dyslexic Christian sells soul to Santa" ...News at 11 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Oberon Area: MagickNet To: Ian Kesser 24 Jun 92 19:21:00 Subject: Hell UpdReq IK> If "God" were to totally remove "his presence" from us, we would be in an IK>eternal Hell not of outside stimuli, such as fire and brimstone, that one IK>could grow accustomed to, but a total loss of the Divine within, thus the IK>"Fire that burns but does not consume", the pain unabated and eternal of a IK>spiritual nature. IK> I DON'T think that's from Dante. No, but the usual 'fire and brimstone with a side of pitchforks' most likely is. Although my concept of the Diety encompasses a good deal more than the Xtian patriarchal image of 'God', I too would find the lack of Diety presence to be a pretty 'Hell'ish thing. Blessed be, Oberon * OLX 2.2 * Eye of newt, toe of frog, and a side of fries...Please. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718