From: Mandy Vivian Area: MagickNet To: Lord Aslan 14 May 92 09:50:00 Subject: Re: EVIL, Maybe not??? UpdReq LA> Fundamentalist churches are force feeding the general LA> populace ignorant ideas. "All heavy metal music is inspired LA> by the Devil", "Dungeons and Dragons is Satan's works to LA> pollute our minds", "If you don't believe as I have told LA> you, you're going to Hell". Aww come on gu Who is to say that we arn't on hell right now????? Regards Mandy. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Simon Rumble Area: MagickNet To: Death Adder 10 May 92 16:34:00 Subject: Evil UpdReq DA>YOU CRAZY FUCKING LUNATIC SATANISTS! You rang? DA> YOU SUCK! DA> FUCK YOU! Hey, it looks like we have reasons for being how we are. Do you have any other reasons other than prejudice? ___ |___ ___| H E R M 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: John Shaman Area: MagickNet To: Blanche Nonken 15 May 92 17:15:00 Subject: Re: Calling All Linguist UpdReq BN>I think I'll start a new company - Cunning Linguists, Inc. BN> My slogan will be "We Lick The Language Barrier." Oooooohhhh..... That's BAD!!!! hehehehehe.... * OLX 2.1 TD * I'm not paranoid! Which of my enemies told you this? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Philip Cavanagh Area: MagickNet To: Darrin Hyrup 16 May 92 13:58:28 Subject: Re: Equinox in Book Form UpdReq Greetings Darrin! DH> Maybe John needs some donations from his users to get a bigger HD? :) heh I never thought about that! DH> If John is willing, I can put the Equinox's on hold DH> for him to call in and pick up on his next poll, DH> and then pass them on to you from there. Have him DH> leave me email if he wants to do that. I have asked John before, he would but the HD just can't fit the Equinox stuff onto it. Will pass on the note. DH> Likewise, I could feed him the additional echos DH> (and ALT.MAGICK if he has UUCP software as well), DH> for him to pass on to you if he wishes. Otherwise, DH> you could call here for them (if you have 9600 it DH> makes it nice), but you can probably find a closer DH> UUCP feed. Ah yes, but question, can you handle the high speed tones the new USR 16.6K modems can handle? I should know this, actually. As for the UUCP feed, friend of mine locally is setting it up for me. DH> I don't think so, since Magick in Theory and Practice is available in DH> electronic form already. Likewise as above, if DH> John wouldn't mind picking it up, I can put it on DH> hold here for him. I have plenty of excerpts from DH> Book 4 in electronic form, but I don't remember DH> seeing a compendium version in electronic form. DH> But I'll check my archives again to be sure. You DH> might ask Tony Iannotti at Baphonet if he has it. DH> (He has all of these, and more, available on DH> Baphonet if you don't mind calling New York. ) Good thing I asked about this. I have started work on Book 4, and I can type out anything that Crowley released into electornic form. So if the OTO needs people to type out anything else, let me know. Problem is, I can;t phone LD (*YET*), but when my system does go up, I will be doing major FREQ stuff. Maybe people are getting confused. I plan to open my system and John is more then welcome to echo from me, call it a donation to Nuit Net BBS. I will even do it for free, but I will be contacting John to get the OK on a number of things. For instance, he'd have to go through everything I type of Crowley's for spelling errors and misunderstood translations. Keep in touch! 93!phil!93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Philip Cavanagh Area: MagickNet To: Paul Hume 16 May 92 14:07:24 Subject: Re: Equinox in Book Form UpdReq Greetings Paul PH> PH> Most, if not all, of the Equinox (Vol I) is in PH> electronic form, on BaphoNet, in New York. You PH> might contact the sysop (Tony Ianotti) through PH> this echo (or Thelema, or whichever). I don't have PH> the number PH> handy, but it is on the tagline of any post from a Baph user. Darrin over at 1:349/7 told me more then enough information, I'm impressed with what is actually out there! 8-) 93!phil!93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Philip Cavanagh Area: MagickNet To: Grendel 16 May 92 14:10:22 Subject: Equinox in Book Form UpdReq Greetings Grendel! G> If you want Buddhism, you may wish to join G> DharmaNet. I'm the Region Coordinator for the area G> that includes British Columbia. Oh really? It would be appreciated, I never know who on my system would be following Buddhism, and I always like to have features avaliable for people who might be interested in following it! Let's talk about it in a few month;s, have written your name and address down. G> I have both on my BBS and I know HaditNet has them G> and Baphonet should. I was told about Baphonet, thanks for the input! 93!phil!93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Darrin Hyrup Area: MagickNet To: Philip Cavanagh 17 May 92 01:10:18 Subject: Re: Equinox in Book Form UpdReq In a message dated 16 May 92 13:58:28, Philip Cavanagh wrote: > DH> Maybe John needs some donations from his users to get a bigger HD? :) PC> heh I never thought about that! So why not start a collection or something then? :) > DH> If John is willing, I can put the Equinox's on hold > DH> for him to call in and pick up on his next poll, > DH> and then pass them on to you from there. Have him > DH> leave me email if he wants to do that. PC> I have asked John before, he would but the HD just can't fit the PC> Equinox stuff onto it. Will pass on the note. No problem. The offer still stands if he gets a bigger HD later, or wants to pick them up and then xfer them to floppy or something. Whatever works. > DH> Likewise, I could feed him the additional echos > DH> (and ALT.MAGICK if he has UUCP software as well), > DH> for him to pass on to you if he wishes. Otherwise, > DH> you could call here for them (if you have 9600 it > DH> makes it nice), but you can probably find a closer > DH> UUCP feed. PC> Ah yes, but question, can you handle the high speed tones the new USR PC> 16.6K modems can handle? I should know this, actually. As for the PC> UUCP feed, friend of mine locally is setting it up for me. If you get the USR v.fast dual standard, then yes. If you get the courier, then no, that modem only connects to other HST modems at speeds above 2400 baud. > DH> I don't think so, since Magick in Theory and Practice is available in > DH> electronic form already. Likewise as above, if John wouldn't mind > DH> picking it up, I can put it on hold here for him. PC> Good thing I asked about this. I have started work on Book 4, and I PC> can type out anything that Crowley released into electornic form. So PC> if the OTO needs people to type out anything else, let me know. PC> Problem is, I can;t phone LD (*YET*), but when my system does go up, PC> I will be doing major FREQ stuff. Talk to Tony Iannotti, he's the archivist, and would probably know what needs data entry. :) Let us know when you get your system up. There are plenty of us who would be willing to help you get your file areas set up. 93, Darrin 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Sysop Area: MagickNet To: Mandy Vivian 18 May 92 16:06:00 Subject: Re: EVIL, Maybe not??? UpdReq MV> Who is to say that we arn't on hell right now????? Interesting idea, (one of which I've considered many times.) In fact, I really hope I'm not reincarnated. I think it would be "Hell" to have to come back here and do this all over again, especially the way things are going. But if I could come back in another part of the universe, to a world that wasn't quite as screwed up as this one......well, maybe that would be more like Purgatory. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Mike Pfeiffer Area: MagickNet To: Eric Medlock 17 May 92 12:14:14 Subject: Re: MAGICK UpdReq Hi Eric! I don't know what replies you've had, but I can recommend several things to you: 1) Check out the files section of this BBS. 2) Look for what interests you & download it. 3) I heartily recommend Magick without Tears, Magick in Theory and Practice and Eight Lectures on Yoga. Actually, most of Crowley's stuff is pretty good. If you're sensitive to "Satanic" references, you can still use most of the system with minimal modification. 4) Download as much as you can on the subject of cabala (qaballah, Kabbalah, etc.) it is an invaluable tool. Does this help? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Celfara Area: MagickNet To: Tim Maroney 17 May 92 23:08:12 Subject: Re: RE: VORTEX UpdReq > When you recommend "Any of Scott Cunningham's books", are you > including these, > . . . . Lots deleted :-) > > Forthcoming Non-fiction: > Wiccan Magic I believe the last book mentioned has been released under the title "WICCA: A guide for the Solitary Practicioner" which I found to be a very good book. Well worth reading. . I do not know about his fiction but I have several of his books on magick and have found them all to be useful, informative, and enjoyable. :-) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Celfara Area: MagickNet To: Danny Harris 17 May 92 23:20:18 Subject: Re: VORTEX UpdReq I missed the beginning of this thread but it seems to be on good books dealing with Wicca. . I recently picked up "True Magick" by Amber K, published by Llewellyn. Her writting, for me, was a perfect compliment to "Wicca: For the Solitary Practicioner". Bright Blessings! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Lorax Area: MagickNet To: Blanche Nonken 17 May 92 16:06:00 Subject: Re: No Tests UpdReq BN>Have you read any of the books by James Randi? If you haven't, look for BN>"Flim Flam!," "The Faith Healers," and "The Magic of Uri Geller." I have a BN>feeling you'll enjoy them. "The Faith Healers" is particularly good! Yes, I have read Randi. I am sympathetic with much of his position, actually, but feel that he throws out the baby with the bathwater some times. While it is little known to the a-historical modern day channellers, spiritualism had built in tests for accuracy and truth of a spirit. I reccomend Kardec heartily to people who somehow think that channelling is new or different. It is just uncontrolled trance mediumship. Sometimes it is useful stuff, but more often than not, is just noise and stuff from the person's own mind. OLX 2.1 TD Ferrets Make Better Familiars! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Night Stalker Area: MagickNet To: Frater I.o.s.p. 19 May 92 09:51:00 Subject: Re: Equinox In Book Form UpdReq FI> PC> ...Oh, does the complete set exist in electronic form? I've heard a FI> few rumors to this effect. FI> Yes, it does, you can find it on HaditNet and BaphoNet. The FI> trick is getting FI> the time to download more than one a day. Sometimes you FI> might not get FI> enough time, so you have to budget it. HaditNet has a Time FI> Bank where you FI> can deposit and/or withdraw up to 120 minutes a day. Hmmm... about how BIG is the set? and do they have v.32 modems? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Grendel Area: MagickNet To: Philip Cavanagh 18 May 92 22:43:00 Subject: Equinox in Book Form UpdReq > Good thing I asked about this. I have started work on Book 4, and I > can type out anything that Crowley released into electornic form. So > if the OTO needs people to type out anything else, let me know. > Problem is, I can;t phone LD (*YET*), but when my system does go up, > I will be doing major FREQ stuff. Book 4 is ALREADY available. I have it here myself. You are going to be duplicating what has already been done if you type it in. -= Grendel =- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Philip Cavanagh Area: MagickNet To: Darrin Hyrup 18 May 92 15:36:30 Subject: Re: Equinox in Book Form UpdReq Greetings Darrin! > DH> Maybe John needs some donations from his > DH> users to get a bigger HD? :) PC> heh I never thought about that! DH> So why not start a collection or something then? :) Well hopefully John will get something figured out. PC> I have asked John before, he would but the HD just can't fit the PC> Equinox stuff onto it. Will pass on the note. DH> No problem. The offer still stands if he gets a DH> bigger HD later, or wants to pick them up and then DH> xfer them to floppy or something. Whatever works. Well the one thing I'm really worried is just how big a HD I might need to store all the files online, there's too much information out there, and I refuse to keep any of it in any archive format (I MIGHT put the Equinox stuff in .LHA format). PC> Ah yes, but question, can you handle the high PC> speed tones the new USR PC> 16.6K modems can handle? I should know this, PC> actually. As for the PC> UUCP feed, friend of mine locally is setting it up for me. DH> If you get the USR v.fast dual standard, then yes. DH> If you get the courier, then no, that modem only DH> connects to other HST modems at speeds above 2400 DH> baud. Do you mean the 16.8 modem that USR JUST came out with? PC> Good thing I asked about this. I have started PC> work on Book 4, and I PC> can type out anything that Crowley released PC> into electornic form. So PC> if the OTO needs people to type out anything else, let me know. PC> Problem is, I can;t phone LD (*YET*), but when PC> my system does go up, PC> I will be doing major FREQ stuff. DH> Talk to Tony Iannotti, he's the archivist, and DH> would probably know what needs data entry. :) DH> Let us know when you get your system up. There are DH> plenty of us who would be willing to help you get DH> your file areas set up. I will do that. I'm looking at around late September possibly, I've gotta save up about $2,200.00 for the hardware, so I'm really looking for a deal right now. Thanks for the input! 93!phil!93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Philip Cavanagh Area: MagickNet To: Anthra Andromda 18 May 92 15:41:14 Subject: Equinox In Electronic form UpdReq Greetings Anthra! AA> The Equinox vol. 1 and most of vol.3 does exist in AA> electronic form. I have it here, and several others AA> have it as well (HaditNet, ModemMagic, and other AA> O.T.O boards). AA> Most of Crowley's "Libers" also exist as files (around 70 of them). This seems to be a confusing topic right now. I've been told the entire Equinox series appears in text file format. But 70 Libers? WOW! I have written your address down, thanks for the input. 93!phil!93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Philip Cavanagh Area: MagickNet To: Blanche Nonken 18 May 92 15:44:18 Subject: ASCORDIA CENTER UpdReq Greetings Blanche Nonken! PC> But don't you see the humor? The spirits represents PC> the commercials which come on at that split second. BN> Damn. *Now* I'm disillusioned. The Spirit world BN> sold out to commercial sponsors. What's next, BN> Polaroid Kirlian Instamatic? :-) heh let's quote from Madonna... "Yes we are living in a material world And I am a material girl!" 93!phil!93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Darrin Hyrup Area: MagickNet To: Philip Cavanagh 19 May 92 02:37:18 Subject: Re: Equinox in Book Form UpdReq In a message dated 18 May 92 15:36:30, Philip Cavanagh wrote: > DH> No problem. The offer still stands if he gets a > DH> bigger HD later, or wants to pick them up and then > DH> xfer them to floppy or something. Whatever works. PC> Well the one thing I'm really worried is just how big a HD I might PC> need to store all the files online, there's too much information out PC> there, and I refuse to keep any of it in any archive format (I MIGHT PC> put the Equinox stuff in .LHA format). Well, unarchived we have quite a bit out there. You can probably fill up a 100 meg drive alone with unarchived text files from the OTO database (including equinoxes, et al.) You can probably easily fill up another 100 meg drive with wiccan, celtic, asaratu, and misc. pagan files. Then probably 50 meg worth of executable files, different database files, and such. But it really depends on how much you want to keep current. Archiving will cut that down by 50% at least, but if you want no compression, look for at least 200-250 meg. You also need to remember that your BBS and messages will be taking space too, so take all that into account as well. :) > DH> If you get the USR v.fast dual standard, then yes. If you get the > DH> courier, then no, that modem only connects to other HST modems at > DH> speeds above 2400 baud. PC> Do you mean the 16.8 modem that USR JUST came out with? All the new HST modems that are shipping are the new v.fast (16.8k modems.) There are two models, the _Courier_ (which supports up to 16.8k with other HST v.fast modems, up to 14.4k with non-v.fast HST modems, and up to 2400 with non-HST modems), and the _Dual Standard_, which supports up to 16.8k with other v.fast HST modems, up to 14.4k with non-v.fast HST modems and all V.32bis modems, and up to 9600 baud with all V.32 modems. Only the Dual Standard will talk to non-HST modems at any baud rate above 2400 baud. > DH> Let us know when you get your system up. There are plenty of us who > DH> would be willing to help you get your file areas set up. PC> I will do that. I'm looking at around late September possibly, I've PC> gotta save up about $2,200.00 for the hardware, so I'm really looking PC> for a deal right now. Thanks for the input! Any time. 93, Darrin 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Dungeon Master Area: MagickNet To: All 18 May 92 20:45:00 Subject: Books UpdReq Could someone out there tell me the titles of good books related to magick or simalar panatural or supernatauarual?......thanxs Dungeon Master 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Pagan Federation (UK) Area: MagickNet To: Mandy Vivian 15 May 92 04:09:00 Subject: Re: EVIL, Maybe not??? UpdReq -=> Quoting Mandy Vivian to Lord Aslan <=- MV> Who is to say that we arn't on hell right now????? Well if this is hell I'm enjoying it! ... Pagan Federation - desdrw@cix.compulink.co.uk 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Philip Cavanagh Area: MagickNet To: Mike Pfeiffer 19 May 92 01:21:02 Subject: Re: MAGICK UpdReq Greetings Mike! MP> 3) I heartily recommend Magick without MP> Tears, Magick in Theory and Practice and Eight MP> Lectures on Yoga. Actually, most of Crowley's stuff MP> is pretty good. If you're sensitive to "Satanic" MP> references, you can still use most of the system MP> with minimal modification. I recommend BUYING Magick in Theory and Practice (was just reprint with original typefaces), as well as Eight Lectures since you can still buy them. As I have been mentioning on this base, I probably am only going to carry those lectures that Crowley wrote which you can't get anymore (Equinox DEFINATELY), if my users wish to read more on Crowley they can buy the books in print. It seems like a total sham that if the books are in print still, there carried in electronic form. 93!phil!93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Mike Pfeiffer Area: MagickNet To: Death Adder 19 May 92 21:24:34 Subject: FUCK YOU? YOU SUCK? WHAT WOULD JE UpdReq Please, pink boy, do lighten up. Obviously you don't realize that christianity is the vilest form of satanism. I know of no one stupid enough to buy into your half assed bad guy model, not on this board! Now, if you can't understand that Christianity and Buddhism and Scientific Materialism and Thelema and Political Conservatism, etc. are all models which reflect the world to a greater or lesser degree then you will remain in the hell of your own creation that you currently occupy. So wher's your fucking christin forgiveness, asshole? You silly evil fuck - you are yourself closer to being what you mean by Satan than Crowley ever could have been, even if he were stupid enough to accept your definitions. Intolerance is bad enough, but not only are you totally ignorant of our religion/philosophy/model but obviously you have no clue as to how your own religion works! In short you can lighten up and try to learn a little about the world before you let your spiritual cowardice and ignorant prejudice talk for you, or you can fuck right off. But either way, if you don't like having a pole up your ass then tell Jesus that you don't want to be his butt buddy anymore! Forgive my rudeness, but your petty evil kind piss me off... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718