From: Images Of The Imagination Area: MagickNet To: All 14 Apr 92 21:37:38 Subject: BBBbbbback! UpdReq Hiya All! Info You: I.'m bbback! Safely (more or less) ensconces in the near-Bay Area! Always, -Singh Khanna a.k.a. Images of the Imagination 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Creator Area: MagickNet To: All 12 Apr 92 01:22:04 Subject: Inqiuries for a friend UpdReq Ok well hi out there, I a bit knew to MSG's so please excuse my spelling and my setting out. Now my inquiries are for a friend of mine - he doesn;t have a modem and so is missing out on a lot. His questions: A: "Who is Viviene West?" B: "Who/What is F.O.E.? Thats it at the moment, he is holidaiing at present (i acctualy don't know where he gave no address etc). Ummm I think he will be beack some time during next week and should be able to reply to any messages then. OK see ya and thanks Creator 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Static Area: MagickNet To: The Shadow 12 Apr 92 11:15:00 Subject: Re: Vortex UpdReq Sure; why not? Sounds like fun. Actually, I would consider the crop circles as created by an atmospheric vortex rather than being vortex sites themselves. I follow the interpretation of the meterologist Meaden in that respect. I am also trying to clear up misconceptions people have about the concept of vortexes, power-spots, magnetic anomalies, etc. I have studied this extnesively. Look forward to discussing matters with you.errs 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Static Area: MagickNet To: Steve Brown 12 Apr 92 11:26:00 Subject: Re: demon-shape UpdReq Thank you for your input. I am glad to get a non-facetious reply. I will examine your method and pass it on to his girlfriend. However, I am curious aboout a labe for the pest, too. That is one of the things I have been requesting. I am more concerned for her than him, because I get a sneaking suspicion he might half-welcome it, even if subconsciously. Most of my input has been helpful on this -- like yours -- but some have forgotten these are occult BBSs, and I am glad you have not. Thanks again.cirend. H 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: MagickNet To: Taliesin 14 Apr 92 17:11:44 Subject: Topic Du Jour UpdReq You're doing fine. The best advice I can give you is to go ahead and learn from whatever sources are available...books, teachers, whatever pops up, but be aware that they are external to you and although each experience may add to your information stores, the real magic is already in your hands. Stop trying to figure it out all at once and let it unfold as it will. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: MagickNet To: Taliesin 14 Apr 92 17:14:18 Subject: Topic Du Jour UpdReq T> scenario is that, every time I get thru the new door, all the scenery T> has changed, the colors aren't the same on the other side of the door, T> and my previous frame of reference is usually next to useless. Does T> this experience sound familiar to you? And if so, Adapt. The natural order of the universe is always in flux. every experience you ever have, magical or mundane, is unique in itself. Even my spaghetti sauce is never quite the same twice! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: MagickNet To: Salustra 14 Apr 92 17:16:52 Subject: Re: Freddie... UpdReq S> Their music has a touch of the mystical, especially S> the early stuff(like "My Fairy King"from Queen I and AGREED! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: MagickNet To: Ian Harper 14 Apr 92 17:21:24 Subject: Aleister Crowley UpdReq Do you get Thelema echo? If not, this is appropriate enough. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Camille Lockyer Area: MagickNet To: Taliesin 14 Apr 92 17:07:00 Subject: Re: Vortex UpdReq > So, would it still be necessary to "ground out", if the > energies are > sent out? > Now I'm confused. If the energies are raised for a purpose, > why must > those energies be dispersed rather than allowed to go forth & > do the > work they were raised to do? Or is the energy raised and the > "structure" used to raise it separate things altogether, and > it's the > "structure" (casting the circle, etc.) that needs to be > earthed? > > Never did quite understand why the Guardians of the Quarters > always had > to go away at the circle's closing, instead of sticking > around until the > working was accomplished. Maybe this is why...? > --Tal No, when you close the circle the work is done and the ritual is over. The elements are given leave to depart, their job is done, the God and Goddess are given leave to depart because they don't appreciate being left hanging if there is no need for their presence. Which leaves the circle which you have cast, "a place between the worlds" an energy barrier of sorts. The energy should be sent back into the Earth, you are not only giving back to the Earth, you are preventing trouble. The circle chant for casting, tells you it's purpose, I cast the circle thrice about to keep all harmful spectres out, now a place apart from the relms of men contain all powers raised herein. If you were doing an aspecting of a God form, let say Pan and you aspected Pan and at the close of the circle forgot to give Pan leave to depart. Pan is going to either continue to aspect himself through you, or find someone else he likes. Pan's behavior is not well suited to our currant society and if he likes your non Pagan next door nieghbor or one of your other coven members. Trouble! I went to a Beltaine Ritual last year, the Hp who was recently intiated, invoked Pan and forgot to give Pan leave to depart. Pan also requires something be given back to the Earth after invoking him. None of which the Hp did. Pan did a lot of damage in my home there was things comming off the walls every night for two week at the sametime every evening which coinsided with the rituals time. A Plague of flies in my house and all my windows were shut. In the end I had to be the one to go back to the spot and clean up the astral mess that had been left behind. The elementals were not banished properly either, nor the Lord and Lady given leave to depart. This is why you always clean up after yourself, i learned by the example of others. I also had to go and close a gate that had been left open by another Priest from a Samhain ritual. I had to write a full scale banishing ritual and preform it as part of my initiation. The best thing you can do for yourself, while preforming a ritual is take your time and do it correctly, omitting none of the steps and at the end clean up and return everything to it's proper place. Blessed Be! Camille 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Camille Lockyer Area: MagickNet To: Danny Harris 14 Apr 92 17:14:00 Subject: Vortex UpdReq > CL> not in anwser to your sumons. Also ground or "earth" the energies > CL> that > CL> have been raised. > Ok to ground I usually just lie down on the ground, catch my > breath and think callming thoughts is thier a better way to > do this? I've never seen anyone lie on the ground to do this, but it sounds perfectly acceptable to me. The idea is to put the excess energy back into the Earth, it is also a gook idea to touch your athame point to the ground scince you used it to cast the circle. Blessed Be! Camille 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: MagickNet To: Ian Harper 13 Apr 92 23:19:00 Subject: Re: Aleister Crowley UpdReq -=> Ian Harper sent a message to help on 04-08-92 10:08 <=- -=> Aleister Crowley <=- Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law. IH> Hi to you all Well met, Ian. IH> Can anyone tell the best echo to talk about Mr Crowley in? Hmm... This is one. Also suggested: Magicknet Mundane, Thelema, Pagan, Pagan Chat, Thoth Deck, Tarot (re Thoth Deck), Enochian, Qabalah, Magick, Pagan Magick 3, Night Side, etc, etc. Love Is The Law, Love Under Will. ... Rise to Adore the Mystery of Love. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718