From: Gerald Del Campo Area: MagickNet To: Gwion Bach 27 Mar 92 17:41:00 Subject: Re: Tinsel UpdReq In a message dated 25 Mar 92 08:23:50, Gwion Bach wrote: GB> I am dying to know what your basis for God creating us in his image GB> is? I know of no such fact in Wicca. In fact the only real source I GB> know is the Bible. The Bible is the only place I have seen that says GB> we were made in God's image. Logic, common sense, and phylosophy dictate that: a) God man/woman in Its own image, or b) Man/Woman created God in Their own image In this Universe we are under the impression that things exist outside of our realm of experienceexistance, and the illusion that we are able toqualities that we which we ourselves do not possess. To sum it up in If you perceive God, you are: a) You are one with It, hence you ARE it, or b) You are creating a personal God for yourself (HGA) as you go along. All things being equal; if you dislike some one, for whatever reason, we must conclude that we also posess the same qualities. For where it not so, how could we recognize them in others? The biblical idea is based upon this premise, but has been distorted (intentionally) in order to enslave women. GB> If sex isn't hurting anyone than by all means but I had to say how than No problem. I didn't mean to make such a big issue about it. One of my missions in life is to expose the myth of Sin. Think about how far it goes in the CHristian world: We take the purest form of human creation, the new-born child, and because we have been convinced that sex is nasty, we "baptize" it to cleanse it from our "sins". It is an insult to ones child. The new born is clean and without guilt. The Church does these things in order to better assure itself that the child will one day be a member. Dissgusting in my opinion. There are baptisms, however, that represent what was originally intended...we all know the symbolism of Water. Wiccanings are reminesant of a time when we were capable of comon sense. GB> Blessed be. And 93 :) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Gwion Bach Area: MagickNet To: Theseus 27 Mar 92 12:31:22 Subject: Re: TINSEL UpdReq Correct except for the fact that traditionally the Wicca God has horns and such. I don't know about you but last time I looked I didn't have horns. Blessed be. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Gwion Bach Area: MagickNet To: Jonathon 27 Mar 92 12:33:36 Subject: from and to UpdReq I wasn't trying to be private, that was my whole point. Blessed be. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Darren Hanson Area: MagickNet To: Moon Puppy 28 Mar 92 00:18:00 Subject: Tarot UpdReq > Well other interested people (like me) don't have access > to Tarot. Go ahead, move it, flee the topic > police, leave me alone, adrift with only the beginings of a > fascinating thread. I don't mind, I'll just stay in the dark. > Well, we haven't gotten yelled at yet and you're not the only one who doesn't have access to the TAROT echo, so I guess it'll stay here.... > My friends who use tarot have a meathod of argueing or > discussing a topic they call Dueling Tarot. Each person take their > deck and faces the other, one draws a card and places it as the > opening comment. The second will draw a card from their own deck > and place it on top of or next to the first. The two (or more) > people will continue placing cards until the deck is finished or > there is a conclusion. With very good readers there is no talking, > only placing of cards. It is advised to use different types of > decks to make seperation easier. Now _THAT_ sounds interesting! Brightest Blessings Darren Hanson --- --- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Darren Hanson Area: MagickNet To: Theseus 28 Mar 92 00:22:00 Subject: MAGIC(K) UpdReq > Magick, for me, is the manipulation of my environment by non- > physical means. That is, if I cause rain by going up in an > airplane and seeding the clouds, that is phyisical means. If I > cause rain by doing a visualisation, that is non-physical means. > (Rain's been a lot on my mind recently...They just declared that > Calif's drought is over!!!) "They" WHO?!? Last I checked that while we were getting a fair amount of rain in the coastal areas, the snowpack in the mountains was still dangerously low. So while MANDATORY rationing might be coming to an end in as little as a month, VOLUNTARY rationing will still be encouraged as we are still, technically, in a drought. Its just turned into a very wet drought. Brightest Blessings Darren Hanson --- --- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Static Area: MagickNet To: Nick Frost 27 Mar 92 08:44:00 Subject: Re: Vortexes UpdReq Excellent idea. When I get #4 out I just may do that. Thanks.nmay ec 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Static Area: MagickNet To: Nick Frost 27 Mar 92 08:46:00 Subject: Re: demon-shape UpdReq Well put, Nick, but I have been in this field for a few years and the entity sounds independent and malevolent; the lady told me it had approached her in a clearly PK fashion: I do not believe she was doing it herself and I am familiar with the literature on poltergeists. Thank you for your input.z 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Static Area: MagickNet To: Camille Lockyer 27 Mar 92 09:00:00 Subject: Re: Vortexes UpdReq Let me check with the SysOp; I would love to read about this case. I will get back with you on that. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Static Area: MagickNet To: Jonathon 27 Mar 92 09:02:00 Subject: Re: demon-shape UpdReq That is about it, Jonathon. I will try to elicit more details. The primary data seems interesting: the duality and the overall malevolence; it has also apparently manhandled the lady in a PK fashion. I will see if she can add more detail. Thanks.svJ e.H 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tim Maroney Area: MagickNet To: William Hunter 25 Mar 92 08:30:00 Subject: unfinished business UpdReq Hi, William. Weren't there a few questions you were supposed to answer for me? You said you were going to poke around and find out about the sanctions taken against me by the O.T.O. I also asked you whether the reports that the NY O.T.O> did little magic were true; this should be answerable by consulting the events calendar. Finally, there's the long-outstanding question: In all the time you have been working to reform the O.T.O., what changes have been made as a result of your efforts? Looking forward to some answers.... Timbo 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718