From: Fir Area: ENOCHIAN To: Fra:. Michael 111 2 Apr 94 07:06:00 Subject: Liber Gradus UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law FM> Greetings Fir... Greetings! FM> I was wondering about that "Liber Gradus, Advanced Enochian FM> Magick" and FM> was hoping that you could post the address to the place that FM> published it. Wasn't it "Satanas Babalon Press"? Yes, Satanas Babalon Press. I picked it up mail order from Serpents Occult, P.O. Box 290644, Port Orange, FL, 32129, (904) 760-7675. Price $20. It's in their new book list (vs. used book list) in the Magick Titles, Misc. Authors section. The book itself has no address for the publisher. It looks self published, 8-1/2 by 11, ring bound, 156 pages. It's called 'Liber Gradus' by Robert Podgurski, 2nd printing 1991 e.v. Says it was formerly Liber Pace. FM> Btw, any first impressions about it? I'm not trying to dodge the question but I honestly haven't had time to look at it yet. Looks to be some of the author's own communications that he received while exploring the Enochian work. I'll take a closer look and get back to you on it. Love is the law, love under will. Fir 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Fir Area: ENOCHIAN To: Josh Norton 31 Mar 94 19:01:42 Subject: Re: CHARGING A TABLET UpdReq Well, looks like this echo is acting up again. >Fi> Hi Josh! > > Howdy! > >Fi> Now that I actually started this exercise, I have a couple of >Fi> questions about charging the Lesser Angles: > >JN> 3. Vibrate the Call of the Element in q > <....> > * Origin: Star In The Circle (666:56/93) I just had this old message from January reposted to me as new mail. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Paul Hume Area: ENOCHIAN To: Solaris 4 Apr 94 08:19:16 Subject: TRUE AND FAITHFUL UpdReq Solaris - "True and Faithful" is shorthand for the typically lengthy title of Meric Casaubon's "A True And Faithful Relation of what passed for some years between John Dee and certain spirits..." or some similar Jacobean, mile-long title. It is a collection of some of Dee's journals in which the basis of the Enochian system was delivered by the spirits with which Dee communicated. In the absence of the original Dee mss. it is, for many of us, the source document on Enochian (though those who have studied his original documents warn, no doubt rightly, that Casaubon's edition is somewhat corrupt). Paul 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: ENOCHIAN To: Coyote 187 3 Apr 94 15:39:56 Subject: Enochian Systems UpdReq -=> Coyote 187 sent a message to All on 29 Mar 94 23:00:40 <=- -=> Re: Enochian Systems <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. C1> How does Scheuler's enochian hold up? I have heard it get C1> slammed and praised by others. Scheuler's a poser, to put it simply. He stole most of his stuff from others (Crowley, mostly) and added to it a mishmash of silly stuff he has apparently not bothered to check. In short, he's a "new-age" writer, and not a magician. Some suggestions for better ways for you to spend your money: THE ENOCHIAN EVOCATION OF DR. JOHN DEE Geoffrey James; Heptangle. ISBN 0-935214-06-2 Recently out of print, but you might find a copy in a good metaphysical bookstore. THE ENOCHIAN WORLD OF ALEISTER CROWLEY: ENOCHIAN SEX MAGICK Crowley, DuQuette & Hyatt; New Falcon. ISBN 1-56184-029-7 Despite the funky title, one of my faves, and an excellent introduction to the actual hands-on of the system (though I don't go by the G.D.-style pronunciation). ENOCHIAN TEMPLES Benjamin Rowe; Black Moon Publishing. No ISBN, I don't think. (Ben "Josh Norton" Rowe is available here on this echo. You can get the address for Black Moon from him... can't find it right now.) While this material is possibly better suited for the more experienced Enochian worker, it's still fascinating to see what a modern magician can do with the system. Also recommended: TOURING THE EARTH SQUARE. GOLDEN DAWN ENOCHIAN MAGICK Pat Zalewski; Llewellyn. ISBN 0-87542-898-3 Not for the easily deterred... IOW, not exactly beginner's material. MYSTERIA MAGICKA Denning & Phillips; Llewellyn. ISBN 0-87542-196-2 Not just Enochian work; part three of "The Magickal Philosophy" of the order of the Aurum Solis. Good section of Enochian, though. A TRUE AND FAITHFUL RELATION... Meric Causabon; Magickal Childe. ISBN 0-939708-01-9 A large-format, expensive ($75) reprint of the original from 1659 e.v. of excerpts from the journals of Dee and Kelley's workings. Hope this helps... Love is the law, love under will. - Christeos Pir ... and lo! thou yieldest not. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: ENOCHIAN To: The Cegorach 3 Apr 94 15:49:40 Subject: Enochian "style" UpdReq -=> The Cegorach sent a message to CHRISTEOS PIR on 31 Mar 94 02:59:53 <=- -=> Re: Enochian "style" <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. TC> I believe you were also talking about Elemental attributions; is That was probably Josh, I think. The whole thing is definately elemental, of course, the only problem is figuring out the proper attributions. Josh has done some research into this area (I can repost his message, if you need it). One point of contention has to do with the so-called Raphael recension, or Tabula Recensa -- several different versions of the great table exist (the one with all of the elemental tablets and divided by the "Black Cross" of the Tablet of Spirit), one of the last was supposedly corrected by the Angel Raphael, but there's some controversy about whether it's really accurate or not. The best thing, of course, is to do as Josh did and "let success be thy proof." TC> While I do appreciate the offer, I'll FREQ it from Tony in a few days Even better... saves you money and me paper and toner! Uhh... you _do_ have a copy of WordPerfect, don't you? Otherwise, you may need hardcopy after all. Love is the law, love under will. - Christeos Pir ... Thou canst not charm the dolphin with silence, O my prophet! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718