From: Crat Area: ENOCHIAN To: Steve James 16 Sep 92 09:16:00 Subject: Excess UpdReq SJ>C>Would anyone care to express opinions on what they see as the basics of SJ>C>Enochian magickal workings? Obviously banishings were not "required" SJ>C> ... SJ>IMHO, any system can be reduced to a very minimalistic state, and work SJ>quite well, for some, that reduction makes it all the more effective. To SJ>me, full understanding of all ramifications, influences, escences, SJ>natures, etc.. is important. However, my rituals themselves are very SJ>minimalist, I often work with no tools in an open field. So long as I SJ>know what is going on, I feel no need for the rest. Sounds good, but what do you consider minimalistic (one man's minima is another man's maxima (or el dorado, I can never remember which))? Do you use all the calls each time, or do you follow the early Dee with the idea that there are a set of calls that are done only once and then last forever? In your open field work, are you doing scrying or evocations? My luck with the latter is much better than with the former. ___ X OLX 2.1 TD X Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Jason Sphinx Area: ENOCHIAN To: Anyone 18 Sep 92 02:00:24 Subject: TRANSLATION UpdReq Greetings to all! Can someone give me a translation to the following: Eca,Zodocare,lad(or Iad) goho, Torzodu odo kikale Qaa, Zodocare od zodameranu, Zodorje(ie?) Lape zodiredu, ol(oi) Noco Mada Das lapadiel(iapadiel...iei) llas(ilas/lias/iias), Hoatahe laida(iaida) That's it- thanks! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718