From: Vitriol Area: ENOCHIAN To: Grendel 14 Sep 92 09:14:02 Subject: Vision and the voice eno UpdReq -=> Grendel sent a message to All on 09-11-92 22:51 <=- -=> Re: Vision and the voice enoc <=- Gr> A friend of mine was going through the Vision and the It'd probably help if you could let us know what the words were. There's also some stuff in a different language that's not Enochian in there. ... Is he honest who resists his genius for the sake of ease? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Steve James Area: ENOCHIAN To: Crat 15 Sep 92 19:46:04 Subject: Excess UpdReq C> To: All From: Crat ___--------------------------------------------------------------------- C>Would anyone care to express opinions on what they see as the basics of C>Enochian magickal workings? Obviously banishings were not "required" C>originally, but do they enhance the ritual? Is Dee's work original C>complete, or does it need the later additions of this later work and/or C>that of groups like the GD? Help. IMHO, any system can be reduced to a very minimalistic state, and work quite well, for some, that reduction makes it all the more effective. To me, full understanding of all ramifications, influences, escences, natures, etc.. is important. However, my rituals themselves are very minimalist, I often work with no tools in an open field. So long as I know what is going on, I feel no need for the rest. I do feel that banishings are sometimes important, well done magick will continue indefinatly, and the evocations/invocations will remain. Sometimes, that is a desirable state of affairs, and of course, no banishing should be done in that case. In other cases, the continuation of those influences will at best muddy further work, and at worst become a terrible problem. Mundane life, boreing as it sometimes is, must be maintained! Blessed Be & 93, Steve J. ___ X EZ 1.33 X 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: ENOCHIAN To: Nachash 15 Sep 92 09:15:14 Subject: Re: tabula recensa UpdReq -=> Nachash sent a message to Vitriol on 09-13-92 20:57 <=- -=> Re: Re: tabula recensa <=- QVIF! Na> I can enlarge them to where they just fit on 11 x 14 cardstock.... I'd love to have a set...uh, so to speak...set of prints, I mean. Let me know how much, and I can send it along with my BP subscription. Also, would you post the complete verses for the invocation of Legba you've been using in your taglines? All I have is what's in the back of "Tell My Horse." WILL LOVE ... And with Labours of Ignorance fill every place. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718