From: Steven Craig Area: ENOCHIAN To: Vitriol 2 May 92 03:00:14 Subject: Re: Tabula Recensa UpdReq Schueler: I don't care to classify him as either a "dabbler" or a "mage", since I've never even met the man. He just isn't that great a writer in my opinion; his first book on Enochian is largely a parroting of the GD/Crowley material, and while the second contains some original ideas, there's nothing earth-shattering within. V> Yes, it's something that's really drawing me right now, as strongly as V> AL did when I first ran across it after "just coincidentally stumbling V> across" a copy of "Confessions" in the Student Union bookstore in V> Champaign-Urbana, lo these many years ago. Just like I stumbled across all these nifty boards a couple of years ago coincidentally, after being referred to the now-defunkt Poetry echo on TIDMADT... Funny how that works. :-) Enochian has quickly become one of my favorite scrying/evocation techniques. It provides a change of pace from the Qabalistic model, and is so much more precise than the usual grimoires, such as the Goetia or Greater Key of Solomon. I someday would like to add such works to my library, but I've no real desire to work them, as the Enochian system gets the job done much more nicely for me... 93 93/93, Steve 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Steven Craig Area: ENOCHIAN To: Vitriol 2 May 92 03:11:00 Subject: Re: Getting Started... UpdReq V> OK, so the only differences are in the English? V> Seems to me I've seen some V> different spellings in the Enochian as well. But V> perhaps the pronunciations V> are the same? (cats eyes vs catsize?) For the most part, although different sources will have somewhat different pronunciations. F'rinstance, Text A might provide "Y'all spurts git in here", while Text B offers "Ye all speereets get in here"... The spelling and pronunciation are both different, but the meaning is the same for all intents and purposes. 93 93/93, Steve 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Hume Area: ENOCHIAN To: Vitriol 30 Apr 92 12:24:20 Subject: Re: Enochiana UpdReq Vitriol - If you'd like to examine the James book, you are more than welcome to come scope out my copy. (I'll get this goon over to the house ONE way or another, by the Empress Jingo) Paul (PS - yes, I agree with Azoth, it is worth the jingly) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: ENOCHIAN To: Steven Craig 2 May 92 05:02:04 Subject: Re: Tabula Recensa UpdReq -=> Steven Craig sent a message to Vitriol on 05-02-92 03:00 <=- -=> Re: Tabula Recensa <=- SC> Enochian has quickly become one of my favorite scrying/evocation SC> techniques. It provides a change of pace from the SC> Qabalistic model, and is so much more precise than the SC> usual grimoires, such as the Goetia or Greater Key of SC> Solomon. I someday would like to add such works to my SC> library, but I've no real desire to work them, as the SC> Enochian system gets the job done much more nicely for me... This is the sort of thing I hear over and again, yet no one comes right out and says *what* they've experienced (except Liber 418, obviously). I realize that each magician's experiences will differ, and that the thing to do is to do the thing, but I'd like to know specific experiences and uses. * BWave/QWK v0.96 * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: ENOCHIAN To: Steven Craig 2 May 92 05:02:06 Subject: Re: Getting Started... UpdReq -=> Steven Craig sent a message to Vitriol on 05-02-92 03:11 <=- -=> Re: Getting Started... <=- SC> For the most part, although different sources will have somewhat SC> different pronunciations. F'rinstance, Text A might provide "Y'all SC> spurts git in here", while Text B offers "Ye all speereets SC> get in here"... The spelling and pronunciation are both SC> different, but the meaning is the same for all intents and SC> purposes. Ah... E get thee pick-ture know! * BWave/QWK v0.96 * Greetings from Interzone! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: ENOCHIAN To: Paul Hume 2 May 92 05:02:08 Subject: Re: Enochiana UpdReq -=> Paul Hume sent a message to Vitriol on 04-30-92 12:24 <=- -=> Re: Enochiana <=- PH> If you'd like to examine the James book, you are more than PH> welcome to come scope out my copy. PH> PH> (I'll get this goon over to the house ONE way or another, PH> by the Empress Jingo) Hah! And your etchings, too, no doubt! I foresee making it there at some point, but right now things are just too hectic. (Our membership just rejected the company's "last and final" offer, and it looks like we'll be going on strike unless the company changes its contract proposal.) Goon, huh? * BWave/QWK v0.96 * Wake! for the Rabbit of the Sun has passed the pel 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Azoth Area: ENOCHIAN To: Frater Almost 4 May 92 19:00:14 Subject: Re: Enochian Tarot Sent UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. -=> Quoting Frater Almost to Azoth <=- FA> Just to let you know, IMHO, Sallie Glassman is GOD incarnate. Kali FA> Lodge is Heaven and Hell and New Orleans is a completely FA> self-contained microcosm. :) Pax. 93 HO duly noted. Thank you. };-] Love is the law, love under will. ... I am alone: there is no God where I am. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Steven Craig Area: ENOCHIAN To: Vitriol 2 May 92 03:00:18 Subject: Re: Tabula Recensa Schueler: I don't care to classify him as either a "dabbler" or a "mage", since I've never even met the man. He just isn't that great a writer in my opinion; his first book on Enochian is largely a parroting of the GD/Crowley material, and while the second contains some original ideas, there's nothing earth-shattering within. V> Yes, it's something that's really drawing me right now, as strongly as V> AL did when I first ran across it after "just coincidentally stumbling V> across" a copy of "Confessions" in the Student Union bookstore in V> Champaign-Urbana, lo these many years ago. Just like I stumbled across all these nifty boards a couple of years ago coincidentally, after being referred to the now-defunkt Poetry echo on TIDMADT... Funny how that works. :-) Enochian has quickly become one of my favorite scrying/evocation techniques. It provides a change of pace from the Qabalistic model, and is so much more precise than the usual grimoires, such as the Goetia or Greater Key of Solomon. I someday would like to add such works to my library, but I've no real desire to work them, as the Enochian system gets the job done much more nicely for me... 93 93/93, Steve 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Steven Craig Area: ENOCHIAN To: Vitriol 2 May 92 03:11:18 Subject: Re: Getting Started... V> OK, so the only differences are in the English? V> Seems to me I've seen some V> different spellings in the Enochian as well. But V> perhaps the pronunciations V> are the same? (cats eyes vs catsize?) For the most part, although different sources will have somewhat different pronunciations. F'rinstance, Text A might provide "Y'all spurts git in here", while Text B offers "Ye all speereets get in here"... The spelling and pronunciation are both different, but the meaning is the same for all intents and purposes. 93 93/93, Steve 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: ENOCHIAN To: Steven Craig 2 May 92 05:02:18 Subject: Re: Tabula Recensa -=> Steven Craig sent a message to Vitriol on 05-02-92 03:00 <=- -=> Re: Tabula Recensa <=- SC> Enochian has quickly become one of my favorite scrying/evocation SC> techniques. It provides a change of pace from the SC> Qabalistic model, and is so much more precise than the SC> usual grimoires, such as the Goetia or Greater Key of SC> Solomon. I someday would like to add such works to my SC> library, but I've no real desire to work them, as the SC> Enochian system gets the job done much more nicely for me... This is the sort of thing I hear over and again, yet no one comes right out and says *what* they've experienced (except Liber 418, obviously). I realize that each magician's experiences will differ, and that the thing to do is to do the thing, but I'd like to know specific experiences and uses. * BWave/QWK v0.96 * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: ENOCHIAN To: Steven Craig 2 May 92 05:02:18 Subject: Re: Getting Started... -=> Steven Craig sent a message to Vitriol on 05-02-92 03:11 <=- -=> Re: Getting Started... <=- SC> For the most part, although different sources will have somewhat SC> different pronunciations. F'rinstance, Text A might provide "Y'all SC> spurts git in here", while Text B offers "Ye all speereets SC> get in here"... The spelling and pronunciation are both SC> different, but the meaning is the same for all intents and SC> purposes. Ah... E get thee pick-ture know! * BWave/QWK v0.96 * Greetings from Interzone! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: ENOCHIAN To: Paul Hume 2 May 92 05:02:18 Subject: Re: Enochiana -=> Paul Hume sent a message to Vitriol on 04-30-92 12:24 <=- -=> Re: Enochiana <=- PH> If you'd like to examine the James book, you are more than PH> welcome to come scope out my copy. PH> PH> (I'll get this goon over to the house ONE way or another, PH> by the Empress Jingo) Hah! And your etchings, too, no doubt! I foresee making it there at some point, but right now things are just too hectic. (Our membership just rejected the company's "last and final" offer, and it looks like we'll be going on strike unless the company changes its contract proposal.) Goon, huh? * BWave/QWK v0.96 * Wake! for the Rabbit of the Sun has passed the pel 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718