From: Frater I.O.S.P. Area: ENOCHIAN To: Tony Iannotti 23 Apr 92 22:52:36 Subject: Re: Jewelry Offer Rec'd Sent UpdReq -=> Quoting Tony Iannotti to Frater I.O.S.P. <=- FI>I am an avid practitioner of the Enochian system, and often I need FI>a particular stone to help get my "setting" in the right atmosphere. FI>I also use quartz crystals in Enochian scrying, or spirit vision FI>in the 30 Aethyrs and the Enochian Watchtower squares. TI> I was wondering about a brass Sigillum Dei Aemeth? Wow... I never thought about that before... Hmm... First off, how big would you want it? Secondly, would it be for ritual/scrying etc. or just for decoration? I have never heard of a _brass_ Sigillum Dei Aemeth. I have a wax one that I made myself and it suits me fine for what I do. I also use it as an Enochian Earth pantacle. Sometimes I like to place a quartz crystal in the center (the middle of the disc where the small pentagram is) and scry the Aethyrs. If you would want a brass S.D.A., I asked Soror Ann (here at K.A.L. Camp) and she told me that it would have to be constructed by hand, or a stamping etch would have to be created. I don't know much about it myself, as I am not the one who constructs the jewelry for Jewels of Scheherazade, but she is the one who knows what to do... What kind of Enochian experimentations have you done recently? I have been working on correlating the Enochian system with the Tree of Life, and have found some interesting points in the Bible on Enoch and his placement in the Creation Epic of Genesis. There is a definite reason why the workings of Dee and Kelly have been labeled "Enochian," and I have been trying to work out a good answer. Wanna get into a good discussion on this subject? Also, did you happen to hear on the news recently that scientists have found "ripples" of matter at the edge of the universe and that it is a clear indication that the universe is expanding rapidly? It's up for a Nobel Prize because it indicates that the universe originated at one point and expanded much like what would happen if you dropped a stone in a lake. It helps solidify the "Big Bang Theory." First there was nothing and then *bang* negativity expounds positivism, and through the vibrational fluctuation of not-A and A, infinity is produced. Thereby all numbers which are borne of Absolute 0 and 1 become infinite. This discovery also gives further validity to the "Naples Arrangement" that the Qabalah so heavily uses. Love is the law, love under will. Unto Nuit, Frater I.O.S.P. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater I.O.S.P. Area: ENOCHIAN To: Tony Iannotti 23 Apr 92 23:24:30 Subject: Egyptian Gods Rec'd Sent UpdReq Care Frater, Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. I forgot to mention in my last message to you that K.A.L. Camp has molds for the Egyptian Gods: Thoth, Anubis, Sebek-Ra, Horus, Ra, etc. and various scarabs. The Gods are approx. 16-18" in height and are painted appropriately. If you or anyone else is interested in seeing a list of these things with prices, write to: J.S. Jewelers P.O. Box 334 Bradley Beach, NJ 07720-0334 For correspondence with K.A.L. Camp, write to: K.A.L. Camp 409 La Reine Ave., 1st Floor Bradley Beach, NJ 07720-1338 Or leave me a message on any 93Net echo. Just thought you might be interested... Love is the law, love under will. In Thelema, Frater I.O.S.P. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tim Maroney Area: ENOCHIAN To: Azoth 23 Apr 92 10:37:46 Subject: RE: Loose thread... UpdReq Slanderous and unashamed, eh? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Bobby Meizer Area: ENOCHIAN To: Frater I.o.s.p. 23 Apr 92 15:03:44 Subject: RE: Re: Jewelry Offer UpdReq In a message to Tony Iannotti written on Thursday, April 23, 1992 at 0:01:02, Frater I.O.S.P. writes: FI> a hard time finding. You are entitled to your opinion and FI> your own Will, and as a fellow Thelemite, I respect that. FI> Thank you once again for your insight. Since you are so generous to entitle others to an opinion and a 'Will' I thought I would avail myself of this opportunity to tell you how tacky, uncool, and self-promoting your advertisements appear to me. Why don't you pay for your ads like an honest businessman instead of imposing them upon the 'captive audience' of these various echoes? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Bobby Meizer Area: ENOCHIAN To: Azoth 23 Apr 92 17:01:50 Subject: RE: Loose thread... UpdReq -=> Quoting Azoth to Bobby Meizer <=- I am, of course, totally responsible for every action I take, verbal or otherwise, and equally for any and all consequences following therefrom. My Will is my Law, and the case could hardly be otherwise, even had I not long since reached my majority, and been held legally responsible by this most abjectly litigious society. Any and all of my comments on this or any other Echo are obviously somewhat in the public domain, but should you feel an especial concern over Mr. Anger's welfare, then by all means Do what thou wilt. Your blithe acceptance of 'responsibility' strikes me as the frantic posturing of a hypocrite who knows he's been caught. Please post a message with your real name and address so I might send it, along with copies of the other relevant messages, to Mr. Anger. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tony Iannotti Area: ENOCHIAN To: Frater I.O.S.P. 24 Apr 92 09:44:02 Subject: Re: Jewelry Offer Sent UpdReq FI> TI> I was wondering about a brass Sigillum Dei Aemeth? FI>Wow... I never thought about that before... Hmm... FI>First off, how big would you want it? Secondly, would it be FI>for ritual/scrying etc. or just for decoration? I have never heard FI>of a _brass_ Sigillum Dei Aemeth. I have a wax one that I made myself Yes, I am using a wax one now also, 8 inches, but it's getting old, and I did not make a mold for it, instead incising all the lines, etc., so I guess I am looking for something a litle more permanent. 8 inches is the size I am used to, but anything from half a foot to a foot would be nice. FI>If you would want a brass S.D.A., I asked Soror Ann (here at FI>K.A.L. Camp) and she told me that it would have to be constructed FI>by hand, or a stamping etch would have to be created. I don't FI>know much about it myself, as I am not the one who constructs FI>the jewelry for Jewels of Scheherazade, but she is the one who FI>knows what to do... I think a stamping etch would be the most efficient, if you assume you will find others wanting such a thing. FI>What kind of Enochian experimentations have you done recently? FI>I have been working on correlating the Enochian system with the FI>Tree of Life, and have found some interesting points in the Bible FI>on Enoch and his placement in the Creation Epic of Genesis. Mostly I go in there for opinions, but recently I have been trying to get fuller rules for Enochian Chess. I'd be interested in your findings. FI>There is a definite reason why the workings of Dee and Kelly have FI>been labeled "Enochian," and I have been trying to work out a good answer. I had always gone with Dee's explanation that it was the tongue that Enoch spoke with them. FI>Wanna get into a good discussion on this subject? Also, did you Definitely. What styles do you use? FI>happen to hear on the news recently that scientists have found FI>"ripples" of matter at the edge of the universe and that it is a clear FI>indication that the universe is expanding rapidly? It's up FI>for a Nobel Prize because it indicates that the universe FI>originated at one point and expanded much like what would happen FI>if you dropped a stone in a lake. It helps solidify the FI>"Big Bang Theory." No, had no heard that. What do they mean by ripples? Or how were they detected? Thanks! * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline stolen by Silly Little Mail Reader! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718