Article 4195 of alt.dreams: Path: panix!cmcl2!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!wupost!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!kughost From: kughost@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Newsgroups: alt.dreams Subject: A Jungian view Message-ID: <1991Dec30.195457.36637@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 31 Dec 91 01:54:57 GMT Article-I.D.: kuhub.1991Dec30.195457.36637 Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services Lines: 78 Here are some Jungian comments on words that I used in my last post. This might help some persons thet are not clear about the meaning of some strange words. From the glossary of Memories, Dreams, Reflections by C. G. Jung recorded and edited by Aniela Jaffe translated from german by Richard and Clara Winston Consciousness C. G. Jung: "When one reflets upon what consciousness really is, one is so profoundly impressed by the extreme wonder of the fact that an event witch takes place outside in the cosmos simultaneously produces an internal image, that it takes place, so to speak, inside as well, witch is to say: becomes conscious." (Basel Seminar, privately printed, 1934, p. 1) "For indeed our consciousness does not create itself--it wells up from unknown depths. In childhood it awakens gradually, and all through life it wakes eack morning out of the depths of sleep from an unconscious condition. It is like a child that is born daily out of the primordial womb of the unconscious." (Psychology and Religion: West and East, CW 11, pp. 569 f.) Dream. C. G. Jung: "The dream is a little hidden door in the innermost and most secret recesses of the psyche, opening into that cosmic night witch was psyche long before there was any ego-consciousness, and witch will remain psyche no matter how far our ego-consciousness may extend....All consciouness separates; but in dreams we put on the likeness of that more universial, truer, more ertnal man or woman dwelling in the darkness of primordial night. There he or she is still the whole, and the whole is in him, indistinguishable fron nature and bare of all egohood. Out of these all-uniting depths arises the dream, be it never so childish, grotesque, and immortal." (Civilisation in Transition, CW 10,pars. 304 f.) Unconscious, the. C. G. Jung: "Theoretically, no limits can be set to the feild of consciousness, since it is capable of indefinite extension. Empirically, however, it always finds its limit when it comes up against the unknown. this consists of evrything we do not know, witch therefore, it not related to the ego as the center of the feild of consciousness. The unknown falls into two groups of objects: those witch are outside and can be experienced by the senses, and those witch are inside and are experienced immediately. The first group comprises the unknown in the outer world; the second the unknown in the inner world. We call this latter territory the unconscious." (Aion, CW 9, ii, p. 3) "...everything of witch I know, but of witch I am not at the moment thinking; everything of witch I was once conscious but have now forgotten; everything perceived by my senses, but not noted by my conscious mind; everything witch, involuntarily an without paying attention to it, I feel, think, rember, want, and do; all the future things that are taking shape in me and will sometime come to consciousness: all this is the content of the unconscious." (The Structure and Dynamics of the Psyche, CW 8, p. 185) I hope you all enjoy this post and it helps the conversations a bit. Yes I know these things a are little heavy reading but that is the way that Jung liked to write. Ithink it is so he would not be misunderstood what do you think? _______________________________________________________________________________ kughost@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu : GO WITH NO BLOOD ON YOUR LIPS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is this a dagger which I see before me, the handle toward my hand? Come let me Clutch thee; I have thee not, and yet I see thee still. Art thou not, fatal vision, sensible to feeling as to sight? Or art thou but a dagger of the mind a false creation, proceeding from the heat-oppressed brain? --William Shakespeare, Macbeth _______________________________________________________________________________